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Old 10-19-2012, 02:19 PM   #16
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I'm a little different than most as the majority of the time I prefer to sleep in the open. Forgetting anything else when you hide then people wonder why you are hiding. Sure you can explain and in the end they may be cool but you get an instant surprised if someone does find you that I don't like and avoid. Here is my thing you can sleep just about anywhere if you are out in the open. Sure you might get asked to move along but then you go down to the next town and slep there. Crash in a walmart parking lot and odds are no one will bother you at all. Rainy or during the day I'll use a little fly tarp off the side of the bike for cover but on clear nights I'll just unroll a bag and lay right beside the bike. You need more time, want a longer break, look for closed businesses or especially gas stations. I've parked under cover for days many times and never once has anyone ever said anything (gas station). I don't leave a mess and I'm right in the open not trying to hide. The few times people have said I needed to move they were surprising apologetic about asking and several have mentioned spots I could stop atr if I needed.
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #17
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Nice to hear this report. Still hot in Houston? I grew up there.
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:37 PM   #18
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I'm a little different than most as the majority of the time I prefer to sleep in the open. Forgetting anything else when you hide then people wonder why you are hiding.
I can't speak for others, but I don't think of myself as hiding.

Like here when I laid out my sleeping bag in a small-town park.



And cemeteries are good places. No hiding here.



My dad and I camped out here at a boat ramp.



Here's another boat ramp camp.



If you think you're hiding, you're probably doing it wrong. But I also like peace and quiet when I sleep, so I go where I probably won't run into anyone else, and I've rarely encountered another person.

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Old 10-19-2012, 03:46 PM   #19
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During the summer (or a break), schools are decent places to grab a couple hours of sleep. I stayed at one in Maine this past summer that even had unsecured wifi!
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:12 AM   #20
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I can't speak for others, but I don't think of myself as hiding.


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Wasn't meant as a blanket statement but I sometimes wonder about the "stealth" campers. It sounds like they go so far out of their way to be hidden that it would be hard to explain if seen by certain people. That and if I'm just crashing to get a bit of sleep going to extremes just seems like to much work. Now looking for someplace to camp when I want piece and seclusion is a different story though I'll be honest I could care less about the cost in that case, nothing would blow the peace quicker than getting run off.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:17 AM   #21
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Nice to hear this report. Still hot in Houston? I grew up there.
Cooled off a couple of weeks ago and tonight it got under 60 for the first time though to be honest mid 80's during the day and just under 70 at night is the expected right now. Still humid as heck though.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:40 AM   #22
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I can't speak for others, but I don't think of myself as hiding.

If you think you're hiding, you're probably doing it wrong. But I also like peace and quiet when I sleep, so I go where I probably won't run into anyone else, and I've rarely encountered another person.

Jamie
This is awesome and inspiring, thanks Jamie. Pictures really are worth 1K words. I bought a "bivy sack" at REI, basically a sleeping bag shaped rain suit with bug mesh over the face. Crawl into that fully clothed, should be good for the predicted temps on this trip.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:45 AM   #23
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This is awesome and inspiring, thanks Jamie. Pictures really are worth 1K words. I bought a "bivy sack" at REI, basically a sleeping bag shaped rain suit with bug mesh over the face. Crawl into that fully clothed, should be good for the predicted temps on this trip.
Mountaineers have another name for a Bivy Sack: they call it a body bag.

I've got one, I've used it many, many times and it still gets hauled around when circumstances warrant, but I've found my backpacking tent is far nicer to spend an evening in, even if it does add 15 minutes to the takedown/setup portion of the day.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:19 PM   #24
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I'll invest in a decent backpacking tent if I ever get permission to take another multi-day tour, or when I retire, or get divorced, whichever comes sooner.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:21 PM   #25
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I'll invest in a decent backpacking tent if I ever get permission to take another multi-day tour, or when I retire, or get divorced, whichever comes sooner.
Or you spend a rainy weekend in a bivy...

They've certainly got their place. Like I said, I own one (OR Advanced Bivy) and use it, but a tent is 100% more comfortable for just a little more weight.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:28 PM   #26
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Another good resource is to ask the local cops if they know of someplace quiet where you could sleep safe and undisturbed

They know anyone that comes to them is not a criminal. Thay are usually glad to help. If not, then move along, and spend your money in a friendly town

Be sure to thank them, it is not a word they hear often enough.

Rod
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:40 PM   #27
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The best sleeps I have ever had involve pulling off into the trees/brush, throw a dark tarp over the bike and get your head down. It helps to sleep with mans best friend, the short barreled colt. I have made it cross country a couple times like that. Oh and don't be a chicken shit !
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:26 PM   #28
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Someone mentioned Walmart parking lots, those are great and free.
I had a cool experience at a Casino campground once. At the Avi in Laughlin for Bike week there we were just looking for a place to sack out under the desert sky and pulled in to the full hook up RV resort at the Avi and asked them if they had a regular tent type site. They said "if you dont care about where, you are welcome to just crash out in the corner of the RV storage overflow area." Pefect place for us. No one else around, level and smooth firm sand ground. Quiet and a small general store in the RV area for a couple cold brews and some snacks...crashed all night just great...right up until we woke up at about sun up getting sprinkled on....we thought it was raining unto we realized we were parked right next to the hillside of the golf course and the sprinklers were wetting us....very funny. But a good nights sleep.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:21 PM   #29
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Spent today prepping: off with the shorty screen, on with the Aztec spacers, toll tag lashed to mirror, bags stuffed with clothing, food, rain suit and bivy sack. All devices charged and I picked up a nifty USB charger for $30 to keep everything juiced up.

Leaving Boston before dawn, hope to hit NYC after rush hour. I may be delusional about making Lexington, KY by dusk. I did a 9-hour day around Quebec and felt pretty fresh, but I don't know about 15-hours straight through, I'm still new to long-distance touring. If the brain gets foggy, I'll definitely pull over.

My wife has accepted that I'm going, but still doesn't get why I want to do it. I'm having a hard time articulating it myself. Mid-life crisis? Maybe. Feels more like mid-life-now-I-can-afford-the-time-and-toys. Sitting still seems more risky.

OK turning in early, hope I can sleep!
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:57 PM   #30
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And cemeteries are good places
Sorry. Just can't get too enthusiastic about this one. We will all be sleeping there soon enough....

Check out the AdvRider list here, or other bike-freindly sites..lots on Inmates will let you crash in their yard for a night.
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