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Old 10-27-2012, 10:48 AM   #31
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Have you ever ridden a BMW R1200C? Great bikes that are way more fun to ride than you think they would be on paper. And you can find a pristine one for your price. Lots of overvalued ones out there but check out www.chromeheads.org for quite a few great deals.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:43 AM   #32
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I am 6'3" / 210#. I am leaning toward the Vulcan 900 LT, the C50, and the V-Stars. Gotta have big windshield and big saddlebags.
Can't speak for the C50, as I have no experience with it, but I had a Vulcan 900 Classic and friends have had V-Stars...


The Vulcan is...


Downright crappy. The only metalic body part on it is the tank, everything else is painted plastic or plastichrome. The side covers broke just from pressure from my inner thighs when balancing it on stoplights and parking. The paint peels if you stare at it for too long, in general the finish wears too fast. Mine had surface rust spots on the frame, radiator guard and lower triple tree, and the clear coat on the forks peeled. The "hard tail" looks fine, but the ride is awful, stick to nice and smooth pavement.

Then there are some things, like the air intake, right in between of the two cylinders... WTF? Even when riding on the freeway you can feel the air cleaner (plastichrome) getting really hot, and it is right next to your knee...

And the crankcase ventilation is connected to the lowest part of the cleaner... Which sometimes may make the air cleaner leak oil... I guess it couldn't be a good cruiser without leaking something, right?

Then there is the power, or the lack of it. On the specsheet it looks fine, and in theory should be able to hang with, say, a V-Star 1100, but it can't. The engine is uber smooth, at low rpms, and the gearing seems to be too short. So it pulls like a freight train out of stop lights, you shift soon and then "cruise" smoothly at 50mph...

Try to go faster and it will make a thumper seem smooth.



Nice boulevard cruiser, but that's about it. If there is a bike I really hated and couldn't wait to get rid of, it was the VN900. I hated it even more because it took me 6 months to find a buyer.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:43 AM   #33
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dont ask me
i have a hard time justifying half of that for one 2-wheeler
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:28 AM   #34
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Mag wheels, tubeless tires, shaft drive 1100 Shadow Tourer
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:20 AM   #35
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Mag wheels, tubeless tires, shaft drive 1100 Shadow Tourer
Take your Shadow 1100 and raise you a V-Star 1100 Classic. You also get tubeless tires, shaft drive and aircooled engine.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:32 AM   #36
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Take your Shadow 1100 and raise you a V-Star 1100 Classic. You also get tubeless tires, shaft drive and aircooled engine.
Either would be nice, I had the Shadow 1100 Ace Tourer and it was bullet proof. Plenty of juice.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:00 AM   #37
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Take your Shadow 1100 and raise you a V-Star 1100 Classic. You also get tubeless tires, shaft drive and aircooled engine.
and the service issues. (rear tire changes, oil changes, etc)

The only upside to the vstar is that it sounds like an American vtwin. The shadow does not, so much.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:17 AM   #38
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As an owner of a C50, I would probably shop for a VN900. Features of the two are comparable, with one significant exception.

Despite the low maintenance convenience of a shaft drive, the stock drive ratio in this displacement class is infuriating. Changing that ratio is rather difficult on the C50 - on the VN900, it is as simple as replacing a pulley.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:49 AM   #39
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and the service issues. (rear tire changes, oil changes, etc)

The only upside to the vstar is that it sounds like an American vtwin. The shadow does not, so much.
kraven,
What service issues? No big deal to change the rear tire or do an oil change on the Shadow. Don't know about the Vstar but service can't be a big deal either.
BTW, I don't care for loud bikes.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:08 PM   #40
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What service issues? No big deal to change the rear tire or do an oil change on the Shadow. Don't know about the Vstar but service can't be a big deal either.
BTW, I don't care for loud bikes.
Talking about the vstar. On the 1100 you remove the entire final drive to do a rear tire change. 3x the pain in the ass of changing a Shadow rear tire. And hard as hell to do on the roadside, should you need to pull the tire for a repair or whatever.
I meant that the shadow is better in every way, except for exhaust note. And some people find air cooled better than water cooled, but that's a matter of opinion.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:11 PM   #41
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Talking about the vstar. On the 1100 you remove the entire final drive to do a rear tire change. 3x the pain in the ass of changing a Shadow rear tire. And hard as hell to do on the roadside, should you need to pull the tire for a repair or whatever.
I meant that the shadow is better in every way, except for exhaust note. And some people find air cooled better than water cooled, but that's a matter of opinion.
Makes sense to me now. Thanks. That a ridiculous design and means that Vstar should be off the list of desirable mid size cruisers.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:38 PM   #42
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Yamaha Road Star Warrior. Wish I still had mine.

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Old 10-29-2012, 09:00 PM   #43
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Yamaha Road Star Warrior. Wish I still had mine.
I'm sure you can find another Road Star Warrior to buy. It's not a rare bike.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:10 AM   #44
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I'm sure you can find another Road Star Warrior to buy. It's not a rare bike.
Thank you. I feel so much better now.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:57 AM   #45
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As an owner of a C50, I would probably shop for a VN900. Features of the two are comparable, with one significant exception.

Despite the low maintenance convenience of a shaft drive, the stock drive ratio in this displacement class is infuriating. Changing that ratio is rather difficult on the C50 - on the VN900, it is as simple as replacing a pulley.
"As simple"?

Replacing both pulleys will cost $500, limit your already limited tire choices and it will not make for a big change.
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