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Old 10-27-2012, 05:46 PM   #61
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I visited Mount Comfort and Indianapolis Executive to talk about a license. For now, I am flying a computer and studying manuals. I can bring the manuals with me when I travel for work. At some point I plan on getting a license.

I talked with a member of Sky-Vu Flyers flying club at Eagle Creek. $110+ an hour wet and you need 100+ hours before you can get in right now.

If you want cheap flying, nothing is cheaper than an ultralight. Maybe a Sonex with the VW conversion engine.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:45 PM   #62
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Got my license about 25 years ago. About 1800 hours, most of it in gliders. I can't stand airplanes with steering wheels, tricycle gear and piles of stuff on the panel: I like to fly small taildraggers

I have a glider which I don't fly as much as I should but I do enjoy it still.

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Old 10-27-2012, 07:03 PM   #63
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Skwentna brunch run

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Just got back from a flight out to Skwentna Roadhouse for pizza with my youngest
The rivers are too frozen up for boat traffic, but not frozen enough for snow machines yet
so the only way in or out is by plane.

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Old 10-28-2012, 05:37 AM   #64
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The beauty of being a plane owner is having a place to store all those old cars and bikes you're going to get around to restoring some day. It's nice not having to see them mocking you every time you pull into your garage. A couple weeks ago I went through every hanger at our local field because I was helping pull new electrical circuits. Every single hanger had at least one old car or motorcycle tucked inside. Most had multiples.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:52 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by Keith View Post
Speaking of fractionals, Avantair has furloughed all of their pilots for a short bit and have the whole fleet grounded.

This certainly isn't what it used to be. And I'm only on my first type...
Wow...that sux. I live just north of PIE and often hear the distinct sound of the Piaggio flying overhead. Coincidentally, I keep a KTM at a friends place in NJ, very close to TEB, and also frequently hear/see the Piaggio's on approach and departure.

I get paid to fly. I miss flying GA. But I do keep my CFI's current.

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Old 10-28-2012, 05:17 PM   #66
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I earned a private pilot license in 1967 the year I graduated from high school and just reciently stoped flying. I flew cause it was fun and enjoyable. I flew mostly tailwheel aircraft from grass strips. Now days public grass strips are disapearing and the local airports are guarded by fences and security gates. carl
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by TipsyMcStagger View Post
Wow...that sux. I live just north of PIE and often hear the distinct sound of the Piaggio flying overhead. Coincidentally, I keep a KTM at a friends place in NJ, very close to TEB, and also frequently hear/see the Piaggio's on approach and departure.

I get paid to fly. I miss flying GA. But I do keep my CFI's current.

I know, right?

I always wanted to fly an Avanti, and it looks like it won't be with them.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:34 PM   #68
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I wonder what the shareholders/members of Avantair will think about why the fleet was grounded. That ought to be some deft spin control.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:36 PM   #69
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Flew a 06 Flight Design CTSw today, fun little plan. A customer of ours bought it, and I'll be doing the training/check out for him. The little beast has auto pilot coupled to a Garmin 396, glass panels, 6 hour endurance, and ballistic shute. It cruises at 120 kts on 5 gph. It's shure not like flying an old wore out Cessna 150! Flew it in 20 kt. gusty wind conditions with a 30 degree crosswind, and it wasn't half as bad as I expected.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:29 PM   #70
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Commercial rotary wing, instrument, SEL instrument. ~2200 hours, the vast majority of it in Afghanistan. I added the plane stuff on my own dime to open up options. I still fly around IFR in a rented Diamond DA40 mostly to supplement my work knowledge, as we can't to IFR in our helicopters. Only a couple of years away from retirement and you guys working on the civilian side are positively depressing...
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:57 PM   #71
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Soloed a Cessna before I soloed a car growing up back east. Finished my private before college and always thought it might lead to a career of some kind. But, when I thought about always being away from family, constant airport food, and low differentiation from competing candidates over the life of a career, a corporate desk job looked pretty good. Kept my private current on and off for the next ten years, but grew bored with the $100 hamburger runs.

Got a glider rating, which is the highest quality flying I've done. But, living in the San Francisco area, there aren't any soaring sites nearby after Fremont closed. Minden is awesome, but with family, career, etc, it's more than out of the way.

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Old 10-30-2012, 03:09 AM   #72
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yep, commercial ME pilot since 1990.

I don't fly much anymore, it's just too expensive these days.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:31 AM   #73
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Did my first Solo flt in March 1968 @ 14 yrs old. Sailplanes will always be one of the best ways to fly. No helicopter time, but lots of other stuff. Also A&P/IA, although I gave up the IA a few years ago. Too many lawyers trying to find a way destroy what I have built over the years. So I have instructed in many types, spent many nights in a backroom of some hanger on an old lounge chair waiting for some drunk client to show up so I can get them home, safely, even though the last time I saw a real bed was the night before, and there is no food fit to eat within a couple mile walk. All for less money than the guy bags my graceries makes. Spent too many years paying those dues. Yep I have flown all the heavys, B747,DC10's CV-580 B777 and most of the rest, my favorite, the B-727 and all time favorite the Stagerwing. Currently fly the B757/767. Luckily never had to fly the Bus's
Yep too many nights away from home with poor food, bad hotels (even the best are poor compared to my sleeping bag and tent) Too many gubermint idiots trying to make rules about something they have no knowledge about, and beancounters lookning for ways to cut my pay AGAIN. Maybe I shouldn't say I prefer my sleeping bag, might give them some ideas.
Looks like in the near future there will be lots of empty cockpits. Big numbers of retireing pilots, not many getting trained to replace them. The cost and responsibility VS the benifits are so out of wack that few are choosing a flying career. Unlike when I started it was the opposite.
As for private flying, it has always been expensive, always took lots of long term comitment. You just don't learn once, you never stop learning, and its a practiced thing, so don't think you can learn now, and not use your skills for a few months, and still be compitant. Thats deadly!
I think I have owned my last airplane. The cost just outstripped my income. The fun factor got taken away by the gubermint and the lawyers.
I'm going to retire in a couple years, and just fly my bike as long as I can. What should have been a wonderful career to be proud of has turned into a place of embarrasment to escape from. Guess they moved my cheese, and I'm one of the last mice.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:52 PM   #74
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Got my Private SEL back in college, 1992. It was still cheap enough back then, and rental was subsidized by the school too. Worked great for picking up chicks back then, fly them out to dinner at a nearby place with grass strip and restaurant. I flew quite a bit while working as an A&P at a flight school. haven't flown in 8 years, but still work on them everyday.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:11 PM   #75
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oldman777; I am so with you on your perfectly legit opinions. The US airline pilots situation is the laughing stock the world over with other professional pilots. They actually feel sorry for us, and in a way quietly laugh at us as well. I am so tired of the attitude of "USA#1", at least in professional flying, when in fact it so not true. But, I've already expressed such before.....I really wish the US pilots had the cajones for a wild cat strike* (* yes, complicated issue)....I mean what do they have to lose? If things don't improve I'd love to see airliners sitting for lack of pilots. Guess you can say I'm bitter/angry. OK, maybe so. So...."I must not think bad thoughts, must not think bad thoughts....". Flying is fun. There, I said it. You just have to be very careful how you do it.
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