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Old 04-26-2013, 07:47 AM   #286
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I agree that the lumen ratings mean nothing. But can you explain, what makes your lights different? Judging from the pictures they are similar to other Chinese lights. They have basic optics producing a conical beam with no well-defined cut-off. Such lights can have a wide and short beam or very narrow and long. There is no magic- you can't get much more output from a 10W LED than other vendors even with top bin emitters. I would like to find lights which at least attempts to recreate a proper driving pattern- a wide flat beam with sharp cut off on the top, but it looks like they don't exist.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:31 AM   #287
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I agree that the lumen ratings mean nothing. But can you explain, what makes your lights different? Judging from the pictures they are similar to other Chinese lights. They have basic optics producing a conical beam with no well-defined cut-off. Such lights can have a wide and short beam or very narrow and long. I would like to find lights which at least attempts to recreate a proper driving pattern- a wide flat beam with sharp cut off on the top, but it looks like they don't exist.
Actually they do. We have a elliptical beam on a few of the smaller lights.
We sell these to OEM's but can also offer those to the public.


There is a lot that goes into an LED that most don't realize.
LEDs create a ton of heat, that heat needs to be managed in an effective way. Electronic Thermal management is the best way to accomplish that. The majority of Chinese light have no thermal management, thats the biggest reason they fail.
Separate Pin PWM keeps the led operating at a constant voltage. This makes the emitter last longer, Chinese lights don't offer that.

There is no magic- you can't get much more output from a 10W LED than other vendors even with top bin emitters.

Well, Yes we can. Although its not Magic, LEDs can and do differ greatly with the same emitter.
Driving voltage and proper circuit controls will make a big difference as well as bin selection of the emitter, most all Chinese lights use sub bin emitters, although they will tell you different.
Its all in the optics.Bigger,quality reflector, more light output. Its fairly simple.
This 10 watt light will out shine(distance) any current LED aux light available.
Wait till you see whats in the pipe Good by HID.

What really separates these lights from Chinese made lights are durability, Build Quality, Warranty, over all performance and Value.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:02 AM   #288
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I agree that the lumen ratings mean nothing. But can you explain, what makes your lights different? Judging from the pictures they are similar to other Chinese lights. They have basic optics producing a conical beam with no well-defined cut-off. Such lights can have a wide and short beam or very narrow and long. There is no magic- you can't get much more output from a 10W LED than other vendors even with top bin emitters. I would like to find lights which at least attempts to recreate a proper driving pattern- a wide flat beam with sharp cut off on the top, but it looks like they don't exist.
These produce a very nice sharp and wide beam. It's a round beam so you won't get your requested driving light cut off. But I know off zero LED manufacturers/brands that have LED driving light cutoff

ps- I see that you're up in Baltimore. If you're ever in the Silver Spring area, you're welcome to stop by and see the lights.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:41 AM   #289
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Thanks for the answer. Sorry if it came out sharp, I didn't mean to offend, I'm genuinely interested in the technology and I currently bought a light which looks almost like your NXG. I have a set of Chinese lights on my bike, after almost 2 years 2 LEDs out 7 in one light died. And the lights are fully sealed, no repair possible. They have a very wide pattern, so they don't reach far, but are very visible from almost any angle. I see that those lights aren't designed for vehicle use, they are good for general illumination. I noticed that most of city buses in Baltimore now have full LED headlights, so technology is there. I can't wait to see your next offerings.
obnoxious2, thanks for your offer, I'll keep it in mind if I'll be in the area.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:35 PM   #290
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Your originally said they're available in white, but I didn't see that option on your website. Are they, in fact, available in white?

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Old 04-26-2013, 03:52 PM   #291
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Thanks Darryl, round optimus lights arrived. Quite impressed with the quality and ruggedness of the product.

I'm glad I ordered the round, as I didn't want the blocky look of the square for the size that they are.
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Thanks for the answer. Sorry if it came out sharp, I didn't mean to offend, I'm genuinely interested in the technology and I currently bought a light which looks almost like your NXG. I have a set of Chinese lights on my bike, after almost 2 years 2 LEDs out 7 in one light died. And the lights are fully sealed, no repair possible. They have a very wide pattern, so they don't reach far, but are very visible from almost any angle. I see that those lights aren't designed for vehicle use, they are good for general illumination. I noticed that most of city buses in Baltimore now have full LED headlights, so technology is there. I can't wait to see your next offerings.
obnoxious2, thanks for your offer, I'll keep it in mind if I'll be in the area.
NOt at all, I hope I didn't come off as defensive.
I welcome the comparison/Questions in particular to the Chinese made lights.
Many think that an LED is an LED, Nothing could be farther from the truth. This technology is moving fast, good things are here with more coming.

People that are buying LEDs based solely on price will loose out in the long run.

The NXG has been copied by a Chinese company, not near the same quality,or light output, but the case looks almost identical. The troops have been called in.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:59 AM   #293
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Thanks Darryl, round optimus lights arrived. Quite impressed with the quality and ruggedness of the product.

I'm glad I ordered the round, as I didn't want the blocky look of the square for the size that they are.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:02 AM   #294
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Your originally said they're available in white, but I didn't see that option on your website. Are they, in fact, available in white?

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The marine industry uses the white. They are available , however I don't think we will put them on the site.
If you want white send me a PM and we will get you set up.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #295
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What is the difference in throw range between the 10 and 20 degree round Optimus lights?
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:50 AM   #296
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What is the difference in throw range between the 10 and 20 degree round Optimus lights?
You loose about 150 ft of total distance with the 20 degree. the far tree is approx 375 ft from the Camera

10 degree


20 degree
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:13 PM   #297
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These produce a very nice sharp and wide beam. It's a round beam so you won't get your requested driving light cut off. But I know off zero LED manufacturers/brands that have LED driving light cutoff

ps- I see that you're up in Baltimore. If you're ever in the Silver Spring area, you're welcome to stop by and see the lights.

We can install elliptical beam patterns in any of the penatrator light bars.
I just never think of that due to my personal lighting needs.
Round beams work better off road.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:37 AM   #298
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This thread looks to be the most comprehensive one I've seen on LED lights so far, really goes a long way to instilling confidence in the product.

I'm in the market for some lights for my R1200C and after reading this thread I might have to investigate these ones further :)
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This thread looks to be the most comprehensive one I've seen on LED lights so far, really goes a long way to instilling confidence in the product.

I'm in the market for some lights for my R1200C and after reading this thread I might have to investigate these ones further :)
Thanks Doc. I have little room or tolerance for BS.
Its what has set us apart from other vendors in the dirt bike world and hopefully does the same here.
I might not sell as many units due to it, but I would rather be straight up than sell someone something they would regret later.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:31 PM   #300
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This thread looks to be the most comprehensive one I've seen on LED lights so far, really goes a long way to instilling confidence in the product.
These were my thoughts also. Then after spending a half hour on the phone with them yesterday I was even more convinced. Now I'm just waiting on the big brown truck to deliver later this week.
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