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Old 08-12-2013, 04:42 PM   #751
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Honda made the first "effort" for the A2 licence category, we can expect
more bikes from other manufacturers probably soon.

Kawasaki had the GPZ500, ER5 and KLE500 all based on a 500cc twin
that had 60, 50 and 43-ish hp up to about 2007.

Suzuki left the game with the GS500 I believe in 2006, it was an air cooled
500, 45hp ballpark, Kawi had them beat there.

Honda also had the CB500/CBF500, 500cc/50hp like others mentioned,
also up to around 2006-07, maybe still in some markets.

Not aware of any Yamaha small twins in the past 10 years, but they got
a 500 and 530cc scooters that are parallel twins and produce 43 and 47hp.
Thinking about this, and looking at Honda's NC700X, it seems European regulators may have had a difficult time deciding how to regulate power. They chose HP. But they let torque to its own devices, it seems. Of course, HP will determine top speed. But lots of torque can provide interesting results, as is the case of the Honda 700 motor.

HP = (Torque x RPM) / 5,252

That means, a motor that hits the max torque below 5,252 will have low HP when compared to their torque rate. Like diesel motors. Or the 700 motor.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:44 PM   #752
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Pretty good youtube video for light off-roading

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wuXJFFmi4

Around the 2 min mark, the rider comments on the bike ride.

The volume seems low, so if you turn the volume up on your console turn it down before the rider gets on the road (at very end), the volume jumps up real quick.

Good video.

Title does what it says. Rider provides good feedback.
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:31 PM   #753
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hit the 1000 kms mark right here... A pic was needed...

I love the bike. No problems at all. 3,8 l/100kms most of the time!

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Old 08-13-2013, 12:53 AM   #754
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Thanks for the input! It would have taken a couple of hours to research this.

Interesting.
I was buying my first bike in 2006-2007 so.. it stayed in my noggin.
I believe all of these were carburated tho.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:41 AM   #755
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Suzuki has the V-Strom. Great bike (love the 19" tire), but at 472lbs, wheel base of 61.4", with just a little more range than the 500 (58mpg X 5.3 gallon fuel tank), I'll pass. Plus, the 64hp is a little more than what I'm looking for. If was 6'-3" and 200lbs, the V-Strom would be a easy buy. However, I"m 5'-8" and 163lbs.

Suzuki's has no sport touring bikes.


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They have the GSX1250FA, the SFV650, and the DL650 and DL1000, all of which are excellent sport touring bikes. If the height and/or weight of the DL650 is more than you want it to be, the SFV650's curb weight is listed at 446 and seat height is 30.9. I am only an inch or two taller than you, and I have no problem with the DL650.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:52 PM   #756
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Taking a trip out west on my 750 Nighthawk, saw the X at a shop in Montrose, now I'm riding it in Moab, will be in Durango tomorrow, riding the Million dollar hwy and all over NM on the way home to Arkansas. First tank yielded 71 mpg, but I don't think the second one will; this bike is way too much fun to lean over. I'm happier with every mile.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:25 PM   #757
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They have the GSX1250FA, the SFV650, and the DL650 and DL1000, all of which are excellent sport touring bikes. If the height and/or weight of the DL650 is more than you want it to be, the SFV650's curb weight is listed at 446 and seat height is 30.9. I am only an inch or two taller than you, and I have no problem with the DL650.
Good feedback. The SFV650 is a great example.

The 2012+ V-Strom is one nice bike. I saw one on base, and hunted down the owner. It was the Adventure.
He let me sit on her.
The bike really seemed heavy. There were no painners, so it should have been under 500lbs.
The owner says she has very good manners at slow speeds.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:29 PM   #758
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Taking a trip out west on my 750 Nighthawk, saw the X at a shop in Montrose, now I'm riding it in Moab, will be in Durango tomorrow, riding the Million dollar hwy and all over NM on the way home to Arkansas. First tank yielded 71 mpg, but I don't think the second one will; this bike is way too much fun to lean over. I'm happier with every mile.

Thanks for posting. 71mpg is about awsome!

If it is not too much trouble, could you take a picture of your 500X up close with full battle rattle? It looks like you have a good amount of gear. I just want to see how it all goes on.
The bike looks like it is very packer friendly. The muffler allows a lot of room to store things.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:12 PM   #759
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For those of you that are thinking about the X, Picked mine up last Friday.
If you feel that waiting until fall to buy, sorry, they will all be gone. 2013 models where I live are the "base" models. No ABS according to my dealer until April-May 2014. Your dealer may vary,but I did purchase the only X that they had shown me on the computer that will ship to them before the above time frame. Not a power sports dealer, but someone that I had done purchases with in the past and am considered a very good customer.
The bike is really suiting me well. An urgent thump- thump from the twin motor, entertaining digital instruments, bars above my hip bones, easy on the eyes, and economical as in purchase price and ownership. It's a real keeper and just so that you are aware, I began riding in the early 70's and really enjoy riding low HP bikes again compared to some of the high HP rides that I have owned in the recent years. See you all at the Indy Moto GP!!!!
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:01 PM   #760
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Well, my last post was more about me rather than the CB500X. Keep in mind that pavement riding is 99% of my riding, and the comparisons to real, or imagined, off-roaders does not fit me.
Start up is right away. No enrichener or choke lever involved.
Pirelli Scorpion tires grip on the street very well.
Very stable on gravel roads that I would have not ridden my last 2 bikes on for 75'.
Extreme lean angles on paved curves, if my feelers touched, It would be WSB.
Very inexpensive insurance.
Fuel it any where, no search for premium.
Very easy to keep clean with out expensive waxes, or washing shampoos.
No one knows what it is! If you are looking for a Poser, forget the CB500X.
Cage drivers (and children) are cool with the low note sound.
More to come later, if you are interested!
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:22 PM   #761
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Well, my last post was more about me rather than the CB500X. Keep in mind that pavement riding is 99% of my riding, and the comparisons to real, or imagined, off-roaders does not fit me.
Start up is right away. No enrichener or choke lever involved.
Pirelli Scorpion tires grip on the street very well.
Very stable on gravel roads that I would have not ridden my last 2 bikes on for 75'.
Extreme lean angles on paved curves, if my feelers touched, It would be WSB.
Very inexpensive insurance.
Fuel it any where, no search for premium.
Very easy to keep clean with out expensive waxes, or washing shampoos.
No one knows what it is! If you are looking for a Poser, forget the CB500X.
Cage drivers (and children) are cool with the low note sound.
More to come later, if you are interested!
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:30 PM   #762
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bbrz, are you keeping the x on the bike? I got lucky and got the ABS model.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:21 PM   #763
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Just finished 400 miles from Moab to Taos, through cold rain, hot desert, dirt roads, even hooliganed through Arches last night... This bike absolutely rocks. I keep telling myself that 500 isn't enough, then I find myself strafing curves fast than I do on my DR650 or 919, it's that flick able. Even flogging the bike, I'm getting high 60's, with my last tank getting 235 miles, showing one bar left. When I traded for the x, I was over halfway into my trip, so I shipped a lot of un necessary things home, traveling with the bare essentials, some clothes, rain gear, Hennessy hammock, sleeping bag, and electronics; this rig will get me through 3-4 camping nights... I have 950 miles to cover in the next two days...
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:16 PM   #764
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Stupid question...I'm a slow conservative rider. Late 40s. I have about 10 years of riding about 10 years ago on a R80/7 and a Cb400f.

Everything about this motorcycle appeals to me with one hesitation. How will it do on dirt roads? I'm just talking logging roads at a conservative pace. That would only be say 20 percent of the riding I would do. I suspect I wouldn't ride anything a Subaru outback couldn't drive.

I've thought about a CRF250l, but I keep coming back to this. Would some different tires be desirable and available, or would it be just fine.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:27 PM   #765
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If I was going to ride it as you suggest, I would go with some Shinko 705's; inexpensive, very good on pavement and better than the Scorpions on gravel. I have went through 3 rears and 1 front on my DR, and will probably go that route as well when the time comes on the X. I ran some gravel roads today; the street oriented suspension and tires hindered it, but was still capable of 35-40 Mph
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