when it's time to go

[Miguel Sanchez]

Originally Posted by 100mpg

your not going to like this.

you response is your way of dealing with this tragedy, since it is too hard for you to comprehend. so you blame him. you might understand someday.

Well, you are right about one thing - I don't like this. Here's the part I don't like:

You don't know me, and you didn't know him. Beyond that, I didn't ask for your analysis of either of us, nor did I give you permission to do so. Until I do, please shut the fuck up about it.

For the record, I don't blame him. I knew him. He was the kindest, most thoughtful young man in the world who would NEVER do anything to hurt his family. He didn't do this, his demons did. That said, I'm still kicking his ass. Then giving him a big hug.

People that try to rationalize irrational acts should examine their own motives first. Maybe someday you'll understand.

Have a nice Thanksgiving and hug your family today!


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[linkweewee]

You know that I care what happens to you,
And I know that you care for me.
So I don't feel alone,
Or the weight of the stone,
Now that I've found somewhere safe
To bury my bone.
And any fool knows a dog needs a home,
A shelter from pigs on the wing.

[Smedley]

Originally Posted by Miguel Sanchez

He didn't do this, his demons did.

EXACTLY!!!! and for those that don't know what those demons do to the mind and soul, they will never be able to understand the pain associated with them and the damage they do......
When you are in that state of mind, nothing seems right....and EVERY breath is very difficult.

They say that one of the hardest things to do is ask for help.....I can tell you from personal experience this is so true. And if it had been any other person than who I went to, I probably would not have ever asked.....and I may not be typing this right now.


.....and yes, I will have a nice Thanksgiving.....because I have MY life back and I am SO SO thankful for that!!!!

[Squishy]

WE'RE ALL FUCKED UP
IN OUR OWN SPECIAL WAY,
I LOVE THAT!

Enjoy yourself...others like that about you!

[100mpg]

Originally Posted by Miguel Sanchez

Well, you are right about one thing - I don't like this. Here's the part I don't like:

You don't know me, and you didn't know him. Beyond that, I didn't ask for your analysis of either of us, nor did I give you permission to do so. Until I do, please shut the fuck up about it.

well, no, I won't. You posted it so I gave my observation about it. And I can see you are still pretty angry and stubborn about understanding it so my guess is you never will.

To to talk about someone who killed themselves like you do is proof you have no idea what he was going through and to blame it on demons, is childish. There are no demons, no devil, no god, no heaven or hell, there is only humanity and understanding. Where did all this come from? Good question, I don't know the answer but it is not a made up spirit in the sky, watching everything we do. That was made up to keep the peasants in line. Its worked for thousands of years, most of the time.

Just as every event and a persons response to events in a life is what determines the life a person will live, so is sadness and depression. Some can change it, but it still affects them in a way that makes them change. Some cannot, but still make it through life very very happy. And the small percent of people cannot see through it, cannot see anyway to change. They are not selfish, they are not weak. Sadness can lead to depression, despair, hopelessness and over reaction to relatively normal situations in life can trigger a deep sadness and depression, the number of variables are infinite.

I knew a young woman who was dating an abusive boyfriend. He said, if she ever broke up with him, he would kill her mother and sister. So, in her mind, the only way out was suicide. I wish there was a hell, if only just for him.

[linkweewee]

Originally Posted by Squishy

WE'RE ALL FUCKED UP
IN OUR OWN SPECIAL WAY

Is that a Mister Rogers quote?

[Squishy]

Originally Posted by linkweewee

Is that a Mister Rogers quote?

[taranaki]

A thread worth another look! The OP starts a journey in Colombia today (along with NoPoChicken). They're 'homies' I've yet to meet but I'll be watching their report closely. Anyway, reading through this thread I was somehow reminded of this song by Eric Anderson. Somehow seems relevant 'specially on this dark and wet morning.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjc0dJhRs6U





Sittin' here forgotten
Like a book upon a shelf
No one there to turn the page
You're left to read yourself
Alone to sit and wonder just how the story ends
Cause no one ever told you child
You gotta be your own best friend

Sunny days, cloudy days
Always seem the same
If love were made of clouds
I almost wish that it would rain
Even when the skies are clear
The weather's always blue
Every day would be nice If I had someone I could come home to

Love, is it really love at all
Or something that I heard love called
Something that I heard love called

Now life can sometimes slip away
And love can pass you by
If only it had been another place another time
Maybe there'll be someone who likes to see you smile
Who will want to stay with you
And be your friend for a little while
Then wake up in the morning
Feeling so alive
Something you can hold on to
Not a shadow by your side
I guess that there'll be time to talk
Of things that we've been through
That special time when all is real
To feel reborn when love is new

Love, is it really love at all
Or something that I heard love called
Something that I heard love called

Then sundown comes around again
You find yourself alone
Wander through a sea of eyes but always on your own
Was it really all you thought that it was supposed to be
Or are you just another face
In someone's fading memory

Love, is it really love at all
Or something that I heard love called