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Old 12-02-2012, 09:04 AM   #1
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Question Cruiser vs Touring

Hello every one or should I say Hey!

I have been riding for a numbers of years and had Cruiser bikes. My last two bikes were a Yamaha Virago 1000cc and a Vstar 1100. At the end of the summer, I traded my Vstar for a Royal Star Venture S 1300.

The Venture is heavier than my last one by about 200 lbs and also taller and longer.

I haven't put a lots of mileage (400) on it yet and just stored it for the winter.

I was unable in 400 miles to be able to feel comfortable on the bike at low speed and turning corners. It looks like I have to turn the wheel more now instead of just leaning the bike. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the comfort and the ride most of the time except in the city where I have to turn left or right.

Any of you have had the same feeling after switching from cruiser to touring or just buying a touring?

Any advices is welcome.

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Old 12-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #2
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One day you will figure out that smaller and lighter is better. Put the FUN back in the ride and leave the comfort for the couch.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:44 AM   #3
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I think the bigger and heavier the bike, looking where you want to go, instead of where your at helps quite a bit.

Take a look at some videos available and you'll see slow speed precision riders with their heads turned almost 90 degrees looking through the turn. Dragging the rear brake a bit can help as we'll.

Look into ' Riding like a pro " video series as long as your down for the season.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:51 AM   #4
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One day you will figure out that smaller and lighter is better. Put the FUN back in the ride and leave the comfort for the couch.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:23 AM   #5
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Hello every one or should I say Hey!

I have been riding for a numbers of years and had Cruiser bikes. My last two bikes were a Yamaha Virago 1000cc and a Vstar 1100. At the end of the summer, I traded my Vstar for a Royal Star Venture S 1300.

The Venture is heavier than my last one by about 200 lbs and also taller and longer.

I haven't put a lots of mileage (400) on it yet and just stored it for the winter.

I was unable in 400 miles to be able to feel comfortable on the bike at low speed and turning corners. It looks like I have to turn the wheel more now instead of just leaning the bike. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the comfort and the ride most of the time except in the city where I have to turn left or right.

Any of you have had the same feeling after switching from cruiser to touring or just buying a touring?

Any advices is welcome.

Thanks

Hey, anormandin,

WELCOME TO THE ASYLUM!!!



You may find that folks here have a certain slant, or agenda.

ADV is pretty heavily oriented towards dirt bikes, dual-sport bikes, or Adventure-Tourers,

and even those cousins feud here all the time.

As a cruiser rider, you'll definitely be a minority and had better grow a thick skin quick.


I'm afraid I cannot be of much help w/ your specific question, as I don't know squat about cruisers.

I have only ever ridden a 650 VStar to help out a buddy, and I didn't like the "soft" handling one bit.

None-the-less, if that's your preference, great.

I hate to say it, but maybe this particular cruiser you've bought just isn't a good fit for you?

Happened to me once.

In any case, try putting a few 1000 more miles on it in the spring and see what you think then.

Don't give up on her yet!!!

I hope it works out for you one way or the other...



Cheers,

Dogsroot.






PS. Oh yeah, almost forgot...

Go get me a sammich w/ that beer!!!
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:58 AM   #6
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The Royal Star Venture is known to be hard to handle. Some claim it is not even safe with a passenger due to it being too top heavy. I have never sat on one. But being big is not always a negative thing. My 1500 six cylinder Goldwing is big, and heavy, but fairly easy to ride because it is well balanced, has a low seat and a low center of gravity. My main problem with it is it is like a 2 wheeled car. Way to smooth and quiet. I like bikes with some character. I would probably have bought a Harley Ultra Classic, but they cost twice what the Goldwing does and don't last as long. Here is someone else with a negative opinion of the Venture's handling.

https://www.powersportsnetwork.com/e...1001&veh=38349
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:28 AM   #7
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A Venture can be a pig in a parking lot. Folks have told you some practice, so here are a couple more things. IF you aren't verticaly challenged, leveling links will help. They raise the rear a tad. A 130/80 if I am correct, front tire is slightly shorter and will do the same. Some prefer both. I found the front to be plenty. A word of caution, if you will. The front makes the bike very responsive, some say touchy. It isn't dangerous, so to speak but you will feel a real difference in the front end and it took a few miles to get used to. The Venture Riders dot ORG is a good rescourse to check in to. Star Touring is great also and you should recieve a membership soon from your dealer. In fact, pick up the phone and ask them to get that going. Great folks and great family oriented group. Hope this don't step on any toes.
It will not make it a lot queen, but will lighten the bike some and a front tire is fairly cheap and something you will have to change eventually anyway. The leveling links are pretty cheap $80 ish if I remember and arent very hard to install and a snap if you are somewhat handy.

Practice, practice. The Venture is a good long hauler and I enjoyed mine. I have missed it, but was ready for an updated machine. This is long overdue the Venture, but still a great machine overall IMHO.

Almost forgot, Welcome to the mayhem

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:33 AM   #8
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One day you will figure out that smaller and lighter is better. Put the FUN back in the ride and leave the comfort for the couch.
So, you got a 125 Vino now too huh...
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:06 PM   #9
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just get both.....

then you can ride whatever you want....I have 3 bikes...and more coming soon.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
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OP, I think just more practice will help a lot; it's a different feel and position, and you have to adapt to it, like you would for any other big change.

I remember the adaptations when I went from scooters to standards, and from standards to sportbikes, and then back again. I've ridden touring bikes and cruisers also, and they felt weird for a while until I adjusted for the different handling, steering, braking, shifiting, etc.

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Old 12-02-2012, 03:41 PM   #11
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So, you got a 125 Vino now too huh...
I was thinking more along the lines of a hideous Vision with a Briggs & Stratton as a power plant to lighten it up a bit and make it look better.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:57 PM   #12
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The same weight that can be a liability in the city is often welcomed on the open road. At 90 MPH w/ 60 pounds of kit on board the extra weight works in your favor while passing a truck in high winds, not so much on a u-turn in front of the coffee shop. It's not the bike but what you try to do with it. Big, heavy bikes come into there own when you are 3 to 4 states out. For shorter hops, a lighter alternative is often better. Me, I have an ST1300 for going to the other coast. In the city tho, I prefer the Vespa GT.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:57 PM   #13
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As stated above,ride,ride,ride......"try" to get use to the new feel.....if,in a couple thousand miles it doesn't workout,sell and get something else?.I think my Honda rs750 Shadow handles pretty well....it's not some folks' cup of tea,but,oh well.Give it some time?.Get use to managing the weight difference in turning!.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:55 PM   #14
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I have a Vino 125. I have managed to put 25,000 miles on it in 4 years. I also have a Zuma 125 and a Stella 150 2 stroke. To me riding is NOT an ego thing, it's all about FUN.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:37 PM   #15
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I was thinking more along the lines of a hideous Vision with a Briggs & Stratton as a power plant to lighten it up a bit and make it look better.
It'd still be faster, and more comfy than your Sporty...

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