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Old 06-08-2014, 10:17 AM   #1
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2015 Honda Sport Tourer?

Any Rumors or better yet facts out there? I know at one time there was talk of a VFR1200 touring model. I'm ready for something different.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:21 AM   #2
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With the intro of the CTX1300, I doubt Honda will pull something else out from behind the curtain.

I remember talk of the VFR1200x, but I don't think the US got that bike.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:32 AM   #3
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What about the new VFR 800?

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Old 06-08-2014, 11:08 AM   #4
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The CTX looks like a futuristic cruiser and the VFR is too sporty for my 71 year old body. If nothing interesting comes out I guess I'll buy another RT or maybe even a Street Glide Special ( I know).
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Old 06-08-2014, 11:29 AM   #5
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Didn't you hear?

VFR1200T is coming.











































But not in my life time.











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Old 06-08-2014, 11:35 AM   #6
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You mean make the ST bike those that have supported Honda through all the years have always wanted?

They're too busy making bikes for the anti-enthusiast that can't operate a clutch.
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Old 06-08-2014, 11:54 AM   #7
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They're too busy making bikes for the anti-enthusiast that can't operate a clutch.
Don't knock it till you've tried it. Why does Porsche and other exotic sports cars use a DCT? There are many reasons why someone would want a DCT. I my case after 35 years of off road MC racing I have severe nerve damage in my arms. Could be the broken back in '81 or the spinal fusion in my neck at 60, who knows.
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:24 PM   #8
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You mean make the ST bike those that have supported Honda through all the years have always wanted?

They're too busy making bikes for the anti-enthusiast that can't operate a clutch.
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:27 PM   #9
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I think this was the rumoured beast back in the day when the VFR1200 was released.

"On hold ready for release" was the MCN quote of the day in 2009!

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Old 06-08-2014, 06:10 PM   #10
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Don't knock it till you've tried it. Why does Porsche and other exotic sports cars use a DCT? There are many reasons why someone would want a DCT. I my case after 35 years of off road MC racing I have severe nerve damage in my arms. Could be the broken back in '81 or the spinal fusion in my neck at 60, who knows.
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No need to manage throttle and clutch when riding hard in the twisty stuff.


The haters should try it and report back...

No, I don't own one YET, but when they build one with the proper fuel range to be called a ST...... I'll gladly park it in my garage.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:15 PM   #11
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I had an FJR and one of the few that didn't like it. If Hondas system is better I'd imagine I would like it though.

For the most part the DCT pushes riders away rather than pulls them in. Experienced ones anyway.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:03 PM   #12
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I had an FJR and one of the few that didn't like it. If Hondas system is better I'd imagine I would like it though.

For the most part the DCT pushes riders away rather than pulls them in. Experienced ones anyway.
It is better than Yamaha's auto clutch. Sales figures alone bear that out. IIRC 7 out of 10 buyers in the UK now are on DCT 700Xs and in the US it is 3 out of 10, both of which are higher % of total units than first year sales. DCT has found wide acceptance in performance cars and it will in bikes as time goes on. We are a hide-bound traditional bunch of cusses though and will hang onto the art of shifting as long as possible.

The second point is a big problem for motorcycle manufacturers. In the markets of Europe and North America experienced riders are aging and will not be buying new motorcycles as the demographic shrinks. DCT is something that widens the target market of non-riders that entertain owning a motorcycle. Very few young people can operate a manual transmission in a car and DCT motorcycles allow riders in this group to experience riding a motorcycle as well as offering the step into full size motorcycles for scooter riders used to twist and go power trains.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:52 PM   #13
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I think DCT Trans will start showing up in more bikes. It's a selling point to people like my wife that wanted to pay attention more to what's around them then what gear she needed to down shift to for the corner coming up.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:27 AM   #14
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I like my FJR1300AE's auto clutch, but I'd much rather have the Honda's DCT. Or, better yet, I'd love the CTX1300 with the DN-01's HFT. That is a butter-smooth hydraulic CVT and would be a great tranny for a powerful touring bike.

To all the haters, don't knock it until you try it.

BTW, I grew up driving standard transmission-equipped cars, and would take an auto tranny every time. It's coming to bikes, and it will be a change for the better.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:35 AM   #15
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I like my FJR1300AE's auto clutch, but I'd much rather have the Honda's DCT. Or, better yet, I'd love the CTX1300 with the DN-01's HFT. That is a butter-smooth hydraulic CVT and would be a great tranny for a powerful touring bike.

To all the haters, don't knock it until you try it.

BTW, I grew up driving standard transmission-equipped cars, and would take an auto tranny every time. It's coming to bikes, and it will be a change for the better.
it may make you better (ie more precise shifting) but I, like many, love to shift. that is part of the full body experience of riding a motorcycle. i also have a manual transmission in my honda suv!

of course some older or injured riders plus noobs will adopt dct. as long as dct and manual are both available on models then it's all good & something for everyone. even if dct allows me to "ride better" because it shifts for me, not shifting is NOT riding IMO.
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