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Old 05-16-2013, 12:57 PM   #706
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I have an MRA Xscreen on my flyscreen, works fairly good as opposed to full nekkid. One available here at a good price: MRA X-screen for Sale
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:37 PM   #707
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My years of experience has proven (to me, at least) that a naked bike cannot be made quieter by larger and larger windscreens. The opposite is true. Try removing your windscreen altogether, and you will find quiet. Of course, wind blast is the downside if you cannot tolerate that. I use molded earplugs to deal with the noise issue, and mount small screens to protect my instruments from stones and insects. The exception is winter, when I mount taller screens to reduce wind chill, and then I tolerate the additional noise.

If you want quiet, get a fared bike.

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I tried my bike with no screen for a while, after being extremely disappointed with the buffeting from the Cee Bailey sport screen. It was definitely quietest around my helmet, but not by much. The front of the R1200R doesn't lend itself to clean air, apparently. Anyway, it was a bit much for extended freeway jaunts at 80 MPH or so, which I have to do sometimes. I also wanted some protection for my GPS and such. Ultimately, I ended up with the BMW touring screen. Some buffeting, but it's the best compromise for me so far.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #708
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I tried my bike with no screen for a while, after being extremely disappointed with the buffeting from the Cee Bailey sport screen. It was definitely quietest around my helmet, but not by much. The front of the R1200R doesn't lend itself to clean air, apparently. Anyway, it was a bit much for extended freeway jaunts at 80 MPH or so, which I have to do sometimes. I also wanted some protection for my GPS and such. Ultimately, I ended up with the BMW touring screen. Some buffeting, but it's the best compromise for me so far.
I'm looking at between 4 and 6,000 miles this July. Will be off the Interstates, but still a long time covering many miles/states. I want the beauty (to see around you clearly) and freedom that naked provides, but with just a smooch less wind at the bottom of the helmet.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:15 PM   #709
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I'm looking at between 4 and 6,000 miles this July. Will be off the Interstates, but still a long time covering many miles/states. I want the beauty (to see around you clearly) and freedom that naked provides, but with just a smooch less wind at the bottom of the helmet.
Totally get it. I'm about 5'10" and ride with a bit of an aggressive position, a bit of a forward lean - especially in the twisties. I wear earplugs and a Shoei NeoTec. So for me, the touring screen is damn near silent up to about 55 or so unless it's real windy. The earplugs and NeoTec are a big part of it - I was wearing a Qwest before and it wasn't as quiet.

I started with the sport screen, and it was noisier than the touring screen for me. I've tried two others (both Cee Baileys) and came back to the touring screen.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:56 AM   #710
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So I picked up an 04 Rockster in Memphis last week. Bought off craigslist sight unseen but the owner was legit, selling as he got a job in Alaska. No real problems, 34K miles, no abs. Now to the issue, when I stopped to get gas or a snack, just a few minutes stopped, when I started up and took off the bike would barely run or die, it I let it idle first for 2-3 minutes or just rode slow for a block or two it would take right off and run normal. No canister, tank vent is good, fuel was bought from many different places so isn't bad fuel, has fuel injection so can't be vapor lock. ANy ideas? Keep in mind it runs perfectly after this issue resolves itself, gas mileage is normal-low 40's....
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:57 AM   #711
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Runs good warm but not cold? Maybe it does not know it's cold. Check intake air temp plug.

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Old 05-17-2013, 08:40 PM   #712
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Totally Nekkid!

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Totally get it. I'm about 5'10" and ride with a bit of an aggressive position, a bit of a forward lean - especially in the twisties. I wear earplugs and a Shoei NeoTec. So for me, the touring screen is damn near silent up to about 55 or so unless it's real windy. The earplugs and NeoTec are a big part of it - I was wearing a Qwest before and it wasn't as quiet.

I started with the sport screen, and it was noisier than the touring screen for me. I've tried two others (both Cee Baileys) and came back to the touring screen.
I went for a 300 mile ride today and had plenty of time to experiment and found out that less was more. At 70 mph I reached forward to bend the fly screen down until it touched the top of my gauges and all became quiet and my neck wasn't getting bombarded with wind. I then stopped by a friend's shop, borrowed a few torx sockets, and took the fly screen off altogether and all is well.

I'm am surprised, but delighted. Now 70 is the new 60 (i.e., 70 mph wasn't much fun, but is fine now). In fact 80 is smooth and fairly quiet too!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

On another note. I was taking off from a light and there was a train coming up (parallel to) the road I was on - probably doing about 60 mph. I ran at about 4,000 rpm in second gear until the train started to pass me then I opened up the throttle. That thing is so smooth I didn't even realize that I was up over 8,000 rpms in a flash - until the rev limiter cut in. On my other bikes you feel so much more vibration and there is so much more noise that you know when it's getting up there close to red line.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:52 PM   #713
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I soooo need to sell off some others to get one. Reading through this thread has made it worse. It's the one bike I spend the most time "dreaming" on at the IMS show every year. Just too damn comfy even just sitting there.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:33 AM   #714
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I soooo need to sell off some others to get one. Reading through this thread has made it worse. It's the one bike I spend the most time "dreaming" on at the IMS show every year. Just too damn comfy even just sitting there.
Come on! Jumps in, the water is fine....
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:10 AM   #715
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I find this real nice but it is an expensive fix..

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Old 05-20-2013, 12:10 PM   #716
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I find this real nice but it is an expensive fix..

Wow! More and more people getting the Trophy fairing. I think it provideds the best balance of looks and wind protection.

Then again I may be biased



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Old 05-20-2013, 02:28 PM   #717
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Question, on my '11 does the muffler need to come off in order to remove the rear wheel? It looks pretty darn close and I don't see how I would slide the wheel off the swingarm without doing so.

Follow-up question, can anyone recommend a good service manual for the R12R?
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:30 PM   #718
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In the manual it says loosed the rear muffler clamp. Remove the muffler bolt near the passenger foot rest. Rotate muffler out of the way.

So NO it does not have to come off.

I suggest a torque wrench to install the wheel and everything else.

torque spec for rear wheel is
44 foot pounds or 60 Newton Meters in an X pattern.

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Old 05-20-2013, 04:36 PM   #719
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Just loosen the muffler clamp as David says and it will pivot out of the way.
Mark Parnes makes a good R1200 Repair DVD. I have wanted one of those cool "S" looking fairings ever since I bought my bike in late 06.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:49 PM   #720
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Tell me I'm crazy.....or not

I have the BMW factory luggage (Side & Topcase) and I do like it but I am not particularly happy with their shape (Front of sidecase is round and I don't find it visually pleasing) and topcase is quite small.

I have been toying with the idea of purchasing the Trax cases for the bike. Some of the advantages IMHO are:
Sidecases larger 37L, square and top-loading
Topcase is also larger at 38L
Aluminum construction vs plastic

The sidecases are on my bike all the time so I'm not worried how the bike looks with the bags off. Top case is usually only on when the wife goes for rides.

I just think the bike would have a funky/Mad Max look with this type of case and I think it would look good on my bike which is mostly black.

Am I just crazy or what do you guys think?

Here are a few pics of the bags on an R1200R











With the BMW bags for comparison





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