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Old 12-07-2012, 07:04 PM   #16
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Thanks Tony,

Without seeing your exact route, it was hard to tell exactly where you take everyone through that part of WY. I just noticed that double back in that area.

All i would do is put the route in mapsource and crunch some numbers.

I did all the gas station location detail for our WY map and there is gas in Rawlins, Wamsutter, Muddy Gap, Farson & Boulder.

Looking at my map is see that cutback. You're routing people on the Oregon trail west of parting of the ways and then back to the Lander cut-off vrs just taking the Lander Cut-off.

Is that gas consistent in Atlantic City? I did not come across Wild Bill :-) but i like his name. If so i'll add a gas symbol to future versions of our WY map w/ his phone # to check.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:17 PM   #17
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Gun Show / Next Exit will be part 2

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Yes, "Gun Show/Next Exit" was originally going to be the name of the route.

But some thought that was too, I dunno, provincial , or some big .45-cal. hollow-point word like that. Then someone noticed the "Forever West" part of the sign. And it was thought that "Forever West" was gentler, cozier, and so would have more appeal among dude-ranch riders from mid-Atlantic regions.

Really, though, we sort of backed our way into calling it Forever West just because it embraces the feeling one gets in these parts, and the route was just a thing among ADV friends. But that moniker is closely tied to Wyoming.

As the route has gained rapidly in popularity, it seemed wrong to continue borrowing Wyoming's well-established promotional theme. "Heart of the West Adventure Route" better reflects the scale of this route, which is about immersing oneself in Western landscapes and history.

It has to be noted that Dockingpilot led the first group ever to travel the entire route in a single trip. He also did a great deal of work researching the South Pass segment--all from the bridge of a supertanker he was parallel parking in NY Harbor.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:01 PM   #18
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Paper version?

From time to time--even just a moment ago--I receive queries about whether I have a paper map available. I do not.

One can print out the route from the digital file, however. And I do reference the relevant Benchmark Road & Recreation atlases where the route is depicted. (I recommend Benchmark atlases, for they are the gold standard in the atlas genre.)

Coming from many years in publishing, part of me leans toward developing a paper map. But for now, the route and all it entails is dynamic. As reports from travelers come in, as I explore more, and as changing conditions on the ground need addressing, I'm finding that the ability to continually upgrade and tweak the route digitally -- and then instantly get the latest personalized data to my clients even while they're traveling -- is very cool.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:01 AM   #19
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Not knowing Tony's exact route our state maps will more than likely have many of the roads labeled on there to give you a big picture view.

Like Tony said Benchmark Maps (they are Atlas size) have all the details and the best prices are on Amazon here: Benchmark Maps
We build all of our maps from Benchmark base maps as does Tony designing these routes.

You can always photocopy or cut out the pages you need and highlight the exact route with a highlighter if you don't want to bring alot of atlases.

The reality of navigating on remote routes like this is that many of these roads/intersections are not labeled. You might come to an intersection in the middle of no where and have an option of 2 unmarked roads. Without a GPS to follow a map would not help you. It's best if more than 1 of you in the group has a unit w/ the route on it as a backup.

Tony has chosen very remote western routes where you need to be on your toes and have all the tools, equipment, water, fuel etc. with you. You need to plan properly as you might not see anyone for hours/days. If you are coming from populated places this is terrain is another world with no one to bail you out. Many places will NOT have cell coverage.

The rewards are some of the finest remote western riding you'll ever experience!
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:16 PM   #20
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I have an email out to you with a few questions.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:26 PM   #21
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Got it! Sorry about the long responses to your questions, but I hope it's helpful.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:11 PM   #22
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Lone riders seeking companion(s) ...

Post 109 in Heart of the West ADV Route "Vendor" thread ... PA inmate looking to break out and flee west; needs co-conspirator ...

I've had several inmates tell me they're planning to ride Heart of the West ADV Route alone. I recommend against doing so for important reasons.



However, there aren't that many of us; good riding buddies can be hard to find. So what's an inmate doing time in the ADV equivalent of solitary confinement to do? Stay home and grow, like, old and regretful?



It's been suggested that someone play matchmaker, and I guess I shall hereby volunteer. Never done this before, but here goes ...

Perhaps someone looking for ADV love can post thusly in this thread.

Or ...

in this "Planning for Forever West ..." thread.

Good luck!


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Old 12-15-2012, 08:07 AM   #23
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Basecamp, even ...

Just imported the tracks into Basecamp on my PC, my first go at this much-maligned program. Looks great and functions well.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:24 AM   #24
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Idaho to Montana ...

... across the Continental Divide.

Ear-popping!

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Old 12-15-2012, 05:26 PM   #25
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Teton Range ...

... looks more imposing--if that's possible--in the unsettled season of spring. On this route, late summer (early or mid-September) or early fall are best.


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Old 12-18-2012, 08:01 AM   #26
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Wyoming Forest Road 550 logging is done

Tribe:

Riders over the last couple of seasons have encountered closures of Forest Road 550 in Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest--part of this route--due to logging ("treatment," they call it) of "hazard" trees killed by pine bark beetles. That required re-routing.

I received word yesterday, Dec. 18, 2012, from Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest in Wyoming that hazard-tree logging on Road 550 is complete, "so closures and/or delays should not be an issue on this road."

The road passes Hog Park Reservoir south of Encampment, Wyo.



Just FYI, removal of hazard trees will occur on roads 409 and 496, roughly in this vicinity, this winter and may continue into the riding season.

For info about roads 550, 409 and 496, call the forest's Saratoga office @ (307) 326-5258.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:52 PM   #27
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Box Y Lodge rate for Heart o' West riders

Box Y Lodge--an authentic mountain hideaway along the route--is offering Heart of the West clients a reduced rate. But the lodge can only take HoW travelers through Sept. 7; after that, a hunting outfitter takes over.

For one night's stay it's $80 per cabin for two people. You can buy meals there as you wish as well. It's a gorgeous and serene locale deep in Bridger-Teton National Forest. However, summer operations typically conclude at the end of the first week of September; then a hunting outfitter takes over. But for folks who ride the route in mid-September, as I often advise, the proprietor says she may well have cabin available, but you must call ahead. Ask for our friend Cindy--a friend to ADV riders everywhere.

Just visit the website (link is above) for more information.

This is a sweet deal for ya'll ...

See @ post 775 here.

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Old 12-25-2012, 04:45 PM   #28
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Three of us made this ride in September of this year and it was everything we'd heard and more. Big bike friendly, stunning scenery in it's variety and grandeur, and FUN! If you ride DS you just have to make this loop. We did it in 13 days but did cut off one or two of the side scenic loops as we were dawdling along and enjoying the scenery. We never had to ride late, or rush in the morning. Well, we did get in to the Box Y right at dinner time, but that was the only really long day, at our relaxed pace. One of our riders was on his very first ADV ride, on a R1200GS. Enuf said.

The Box-Y is a must, and we found some neat, but old, log cabins just north of Atlantic City on Louis Lake that we really enjoyed. No electricity, just a handy Coleman lantern provided on the table. We had Moose for company in the morning, too! Wild Bill's is right in Atlantic City; just ask anyone where. He wasn't home when we were there but had a note out front saying to fill your gas tanks from the provided cans and leave money. I imagine it's generally there when needed.

Thanks so much Tony, and Frank, for letting us in on this trip!
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:07 PM   #29
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Hey, thanks, blaisew!

How 'bout a bit of the eastern Idaho segment ...


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... and a bit of Montana


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