Tiger 800XC Tubeless Converts?

fullmonte · 12-03-2012, 08:42 AM

For those of you who have converted your rear wheel to tubeless, how has it worked out for you? Pros, cons, leakage issues? Is 3M 5200 fast cure THE sealant to use in this application? Any pointers and input is appreciated.

levain · 12-03-2012, 08:03 PM

Yeah. What he said

fullmonte · 12-08-2012, 09:00 AM

Bump. So far, two inmates have contacted me with positive tubeless Tiger results.

yukonjon · 12-08-2012, 12:36 PM

What have they used for the conversion?

fullmonte · 12-08-2012, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukonjon

What have they used for the conversion?

3m 5200 sealant, but I am leaning towards the fast cure 5200.

cyclingtom · 12-10-2012, 05:20 PM

Here's a few requested pics from the process with 3M 5200 sealant. Good prep, vinyl tape over the spoke heads, about 1/8" of sealant and a tubeless valve stem. There's not a lot of skill involved, just follow the directions on your sealant of choice.

10k problem free miles and several tire changes on this rear tire 800XC setup. Thinking seriously about doing the front. Some advise against it due to the rapid rate the front might deflate and not having "tubeless lips" on the front rim.

I've had a front puncture with a tube as well as tubeless. I can attest to the fact the front can go down quickly in either case so I may give it a go in the near future.

X1Glider · 12-11-2012, 12:55 PM

What about that liquid rubber in a rattle can that we've all seen on TV with the boat with a screen door bottom?

av_mech · 12-11-2012, 09:36 PM

Totally didn't work for me. Did the prep, did the sealant, 1 psi a minute leak after I was done. Took the tire off. The 5200 didn't adhere at all. It all pulled out in one big strip of 5200. It never sealed the rim completely and never adhered to the rim. I should have trusted my gut feeling and just used the pro seal we use in aviation. Maybe with some better prep it would have worked better, but in my experience, I wouldn't recommend the 5200. Back to tubes for me. Maybe a winter project to try it with pro seal.

Some have had great success with this. I would highly recommend taping along the safety lip of the rim. That's the point of contact where the scraper is touching the rim in the above pic. Tape off anywhere you don't want this stuff! It's a bitch to clean.

I'll admit where I probably screwed up. I prepped with Mineral Spirits. Then I realized that leaves a residue. Cleaned the mineral spirits with MEK. Thought I had it all off. Guess not. But it didn't stick ANYWHERE! So I wonder...

Drunk_Uncle · 12-12-2012, 08:37 AM

this is an option up front

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...liss-Core.aspx

slider162 · 12-12-2012, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by av_mech

Totally didn't work for me. Did the prep, did the sealant, 1 psi a minute leak after I was done. Took the tire off. The 5200 didn't adhere at all. It all pulled out in one big strip of 5200. It never sealed the rim completely and never adhered to the rim. I should have trusted my gut feeling and just used the pro seal we use in aviation. Maybe with some better prep it would have worked better, but in my experience, I wouldn't recommend the 5200. Back to tubes for me. Maybe a winter project to try it with pro seal.

Some have had great success with this. I would highly recommend taping along the safety lip of the rim. That's the point of contact where the scraper is touching the rim in the above pic. Tape off anywhere you don't want this stuff! It's a bitch to clean.

I'll admit where I probably screwed up. I prepped with Mineral Spirits. Then I realized that leaves a residue. Cleaned the mineral spirits with MEK. Thought I had it all off. Guess not. But it didn't stick ANYWHERE! So I wonder...

I'm surprised it didn't stick. That stuff was the defacto sealent in the marine world and stuck to anything.

X1Glider · 12-12-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk_Uncle

this is an option up front

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...liss-Core.aspx

Nope. A couple months back, I asked about using Tubliss on a KTM LC4 640 E and possible road use. This is the reply to my question from Jeff Douglass @ Tubliss:

The short answer is that TUbliss is for off-road use only. It is NOT dot and we have NOT tested for on-road use. Also we don't want to incur the liability that comes with on-road use. AND = I also believe that standard tubes are NOT safe for on-road use, so I'm also trying to stay consistent with my beliefs!

With all this being said, please also know that we ARE working on a different product that accomplishes what TUbliss does that will be for on-road use. However this is at least 6-9 months away still.

fbj913 · 12-13-2012, 07:12 AM

send it to woddys and be done with it.

bross · 04-06-2013, 12:24 PM

For those of you that are having success with the tubeless sealing, does it make tire changes any harder? You're loosing a good chunk of your drop center to sealant?

Riot · 04-06-2013, 12:55 PM

Have not tried it but OUTEX Tubless kit seems popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikKeVNBAmQQ

cyclingtom · 04-06-2013, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bross

For those of you that are having success with the tubeless sealing, does it make tire changes any harder? You're loosing a good chunk of your drop center to sealant?

Tire changes- no more difficult than before. The thickness of the sealant is approx. 1/8" (3mm) so it doesn't have a dramatic effect on pulling that bead over the rim for removal/installation.

BTW: 13,780 miles and counting on seal job...no problems.

Gonna start doing a little research on a front seal job. There seems to be two camps on doing the front.

12-03-2012, 08:42 AM	#1
fullmonte ^OP Reformed Kneedragger Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Oddometer: 4,382	Tiger 800XC Tubeless Converts? For those of you who have converted your rear wheel to tubeless, how has it worked out for you? Pros, cons, leakage issues? Is 3M 5200 fast cure THE sealant to use in this application? Any pointers and input is appreciated. __________________ "If you are looking for the typical ride to a restaurant, eat tacos, hold the middle finger over the food, stop and take a picture of a gravel road type ride, you probably won't be interested." - dlrides "A guy I know was the lead researcher for the University of Utah federally funded study of cellphone and texting use while driving. He found that your twice as dangerous as a drunk while using your cell phone and I think it was up to six times worse if the driver was texting."-dakardad

12-03-2012, 08:03 PM	#2
levain STILL Jim Williams Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Providence, RI Oddometer: 5,953	Yeah. What he said __________________ Click Here! 2012 Triumph Tiger 800 XC 1971 Lambretta DL

12-08-2012, 09:00 AM	#3
fullmonte ^OP Reformed Kneedragger Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Oddometer: 4,382	Bump. So far, two inmates have contacted me with positive tubeless Tiger results. __________________ "If you are looking for the typical ride to a restaurant, eat tacos, hold the middle finger over the food, stop and take a picture of a gravel road type ride, you probably won't be interested." - dlrides "A guy I know was the lead researcher for the University of Utah federally funded study of cellphone and texting use while driving. He found that your twice as dangerous as a drunk while using your cell phone and I think it was up to six times worse if the driver was texting."-dakardad

12-10-2012, 05:20 PM	#6
cyclingtom Sim Sala Bim Joined: Jun 2007 Location: First State Oddometer: 3,378	Here's a few requested pics from the process with 3M 5200 sealant. Good prep, vinyl tape over the spoke heads, about 1/8" of sealant and a tubeless valve stem. There's not a lot of skill involved, just follow the directions on your sealant of choice. 10k problem free miles and several tire changes on this rear tire 800XC setup. Thinking seriously about doing the front. Some advise against it due to the rapid rate the front might deflate and not having "tubeless lips" on the front rim. I've had a front puncture with a tube as well as tubeless. I can attest to the fact the front can go down quickly in either case so I may give it a go in the near future. __________________ Inconsequential Adventurer Upon us all a little rain must fall. L.Z.

12-11-2012, 12:55 PM	#7
X1Glider Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Oddometer: 205	What about that liquid rubber in a rattle can that we've all seen on TV with the boat with a screen door bottom? __________________ Bob Krzeszkiewicz - 2013 Christini 450E - 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 - 2000 Harley Davidson FXDX - 1999 Buell X1

12-08-2012, 12:36 PM	#4
yukonjon Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Pacific Northwet, Tacoma Oddometer: 121	What have they used for the conversion?

12-11-2012, 09:36 PM	#8
av_mech Risk Taker Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Boise, ID Oddometer: 1,105	Totally didn't work for me. Did the prep, did the sealant, 1 psi a minute leak after I was done. Took the tire off. The 5200 didn't adhere at all. It all pulled out in one big strip of 5200. It never sealed the rim completely and never adhered to the rim. I should have trusted my gut feeling and just used the pro seal we use in aviation. Maybe with some better prep it would have worked better, but in my experience, I wouldn't recommend the 5200. Back to tubes for me. Maybe a winter project to try it with pro seal. Some have had great success with this. I would highly recommend taping along the safety lip of the rim. That's the point of contact where the scraper is touching the rim in the above pic. Tape off anywhere you don't want this stuff! It's a bitch to clean. I'll admit where I probably screwed up. I prepped with Mineral Spirits. Then I realized that leaves a residue. Cleaned the mineral spirits with MEK. Thought I had it all off. Guess not. But it didn't stick ANYWHERE! So I wonder... __________________ 2011 Triumph 800 XC 2007 Honda CRF 250X 1994 Kawasaki KLX 650R THE ADVENTURES OF TYSON AND HOBBES THE BACKCOUNTRY PURSUIT- Boise, Idaho's consignment specialist for ADV gear!

12-12-2012, 08:37 AM	#9
Drunk_Uncle Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Anchorage, AK Oddometer: 1,446	this is an option up front http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...liss-Core.aspx __________________ "I refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death" 2009 Buell XB12X(sold), 2006 Triumph Sprint ST, 2006 Tiger 955i, 01 XR650L replaced by a KLR, and now a 2010 Honda NT700V for the wife.

12-13-2012, 07:12 AM	#12
fbj913 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Williston ND/ KC MO Oddometer: 1,842	send it to woddys and be done with it. __________________ Ride 365 LLC Braaaap!

04-06-2013, 12:24 PM	#13
bross Where we riding to? Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Osoyoos, BC Oddometer: 3,524	For those of you that are having success with the tubeless sealing, does it make tire changes any harder? You're loosing a good chunk of your drop center to sealant?

04-06-2013, 12:55 PM	#14
Riot Tiger Rider Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Brisvagas, Oztralia Oddometer: 64	Have not tried it but OUTEX Tubless kit seems popular. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikKeVNBAmQQ

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