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Old 12-03-2012, 09:42 AM   #1
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Tiger 800XC Tubeless Converts?

For those of you who have converted your rear wheel to tubeless, how has it worked out for you? Pros, cons, leakage issues? Is 3M 5200 fast cure THE sealant to use in this application? Any pointers and input is appreciated.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:03 PM   #2
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #3
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Bump. So far, two inmates have contacted me with positive tubeless Tiger results.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:36 PM   #4
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What have they used for the conversion?
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:12 PM   #5
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What have they used for the conversion?
3m 5200 sealant, but I am leaning towards the fast cure 5200.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:20 PM   #6
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Here's a few requested pics from the process with 3M 5200 sealant. Good prep, vinyl tape over the spoke heads, about 1/8" of sealant and a tubeless valve stem. There's not a lot of skill involved, just follow the directions on your sealant of choice.

10k problem free miles and several tire changes on this rear tire 800XC setup. Thinking seriously about doing the front. Some advise against it due to the rapid rate the front might deflate and not having "tubeless lips" on the front rim.

I've had a front puncture with a tube as well as tubeless. I can attest to the fact the front can go down quickly in either case so I may give it a go in the near future.






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Old 12-11-2012, 01:55 PM   #7
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:36 PM   #8
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Totally didn't work for me. Did the prep, did the sealant, 1 psi a minute leak after I was done. Took the tire off. The 5200 didn't adhere at all. It all pulled out in one big strip of 5200. It never sealed the rim completely and never adhered to the rim. I should have trusted my gut feeling and just used the pro seal we use in aviation. Maybe with some better prep it would have worked better, but in my experience, I wouldn't recommend the 5200. Back to tubes for me. Maybe a winter project to try it with pro seal.

Some have had great success with this. I would highly recommend taping along the safety lip of the rim. That's the point of contact where the scraper is touching the rim in the above pic. Tape off anywhere you don't want this stuff! It's a bitch to clean.

I'll admit where I probably screwed up. I prepped with Mineral Spirits. Then I realized that leaves a residue. Cleaned the mineral spirits with MEK. Thought I had it all off. Guess not. But it didn't stick ANYWHERE! So I wonder...
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:37 AM   #9
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this is an option up front

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Old 12-12-2012, 10:03 AM   #10
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Totally didn't work for me. Did the prep, did the sealant, 1 psi a minute leak after I was done. Took the tire off. The 5200 didn't adhere at all. It all pulled out in one big strip of 5200. It never sealed the rim completely and never adhered to the rim. I should have trusted my gut feeling and just used the pro seal we use in aviation. Maybe with some better prep it would have worked better, but in my experience, I wouldn't recommend the 5200. Back to tubes for me. Maybe a winter project to try it with pro seal.

Some have had great success with this. I would highly recommend taping along the safety lip of the rim. That's the point of contact where the scraper is touching the rim in the above pic. Tape off anywhere you don't want this stuff! It's a bitch to clean.

I'll admit where I probably screwed up. I prepped with Mineral Spirits. Then I realized that leaves a residue. Cleaned the mineral spirits with MEK. Thought I had it all off. Guess not. But it didn't stick ANYWHERE! So I wonder...
I'm surprised it didn't stick. That stuff was the defacto sealent in the marine world and stuck to anything.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #11
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Nope. A couple months back, I asked about using Tubliss on a KTM LC4 640 E and possible road use. This is the reply to my question from Jeff Douglass @ Tubliss:

The short answer is that TUbliss is for off-road use only. It is NOT dot and we have NOT tested for on-road use. Also we don't want to incur the liability that comes with on-road use. AND = I also believe that standard tubes are NOT safe for on-road use, so I'm also trying to stay consistent with my beliefs!


With all this being said, please also know that we ARE working on a different product that accomplishes what TUbliss does that will be for on-road use. However this is at least 6-9 months away still.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:12 AM   #12
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:24 PM   #13
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For those of you that are having success with the tubeless sealing, does it make tire changes any harder? You're loosing a good chunk of your drop center to sealant?
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:55 PM   #14
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Have not tried it but OUTEX Tubless kit seems popular.

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Old 04-06-2013, 01:56 PM   #15
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For those of you that are having success with the tubeless sealing, does it make tire changes any harder? You're loosing a good chunk of your drop center to sealant?

Tire changes- no more difficult than before. The thickness of the sealant is approx. 1/8" (3mm) so it doesn't have a dramatic effect on pulling that bead over the rim for removal/installation.

BTW: 13,780 miles and counting on seal job...no problems.

Gonna start doing a little research on a front seal job. There seems to be two camps on doing the front.
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