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Old 02-03-2014, 10:52 AM   #1
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1 or 2-piece suit, Help me decide...

Hi All,

I'm in the market for a new 4-season suit either a 2-piece or 1. I'd like to hear any relevant opinions and experiences with the mentioned brands/models if any. I have a Scorpion mesh setup for the summer riding so the 4-season doesn't really need to be perfect for summer riding, as long as the venting is adequate.

I'm currently looking at these products in order of interest:

First Gear Kathmandu 2-piece = $560 w/ Pants




Olympia X-Moto 2 -piece = $440 w/ pants






I have to admit, something is really calling me on the 1-piece setup, just feel this would provide the best safety and comfort while on my longer tours. Can see where they might be a PITA when stopping for food/restrooms/etc.

Scorpion Passport = $429




First Gear Expedition = $584




Olympia Odyssey = $449



As always, any assistance/ info is greatly appreciated!!

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Old 02-03-2014, 11:11 AM   #2
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I've been on this fence for a while...bought a few different things and still dont have the 'perfect' gear. I'm looking forward to see what the community says about finding the right stuff.
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:53 PM   #3
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As someone who just recently bought a 1 piece (thanks to this shit-tastic midwest winter) after years of riding in 2 pieces, I can tell you 2 things.

A 2 piece is more versatile
A 1 piece is warmer and drier

Which is why I have 2 2 piece suits (leather for railing and textile for general riding), and a 1 piece (for extra cold and/or extra wet weather).
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Old 02-03-2014, 06:40 PM   #4
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My recommendation: buy a used Aerostich Roadcrafter.

Second Recommendation: I've had both a two piece and a one piece and ON BIKE I much prefer a one piece. Off-bike the two piece is more versatile.

Given that I tend to ride to a destination and then dump the suit, I'm happier with the one piece.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:09 PM   #5
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I absolutely love my Aerostich Darien two piece suit.

I read a ton of reviews before buying mine and found them to be very accurate. About the only area which I disagreed was temperature. There were more than a few people who thought it to be too warm. I never found that to be the case. With all the vents open, my jacket fills with air and lifts up and floats, with the shoulders not even touching me. If anything, I'd say the jacket is cold. It's very thin and unlike any other jacket I've owned. Because I'm between sizes (41) I rode up to Duluth and was sized in person for it. An off the shelf 42 was selected for me and it's perfect.

Everything else you'll read is true though. It's stiff, expensive, kinda ugly...etc. Mine is tan which was a new color for the heavy weight Darien. Get used to all the; "Why are you wearing a firemans jacket?" comments if you choose this color.

I have never been wet in mine and I never miss a chance to ride in the rain.

BTW, the cheapest way to buy gear is to buy it strait from the manufacturer.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:28 PM   #6
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I have the X Moto and find it to be very adaptable to a variety of conditions.
Here in Cali I can be in central valley 100 degree heat and an hour later be on the coast and it can be in the 40's and fog/rain.
Quality is very good,mine is a couple years old with no significant wear seen.
Liners are good and they are effective in significant rain,but for longer trips I usually bring external rain gear,as I don't want the hassle of stripping down at roadside to put the liners in.


I'm not inclined very often,as I'm an ATGATT guy,but with a two piece you can just throw on the jacket for a quick trip.
I also have other riding pants and I can mix them with the jacket,depending on conditions.
Can't do these things with a one piece.

There are one or two X Moto threads on this site,so you can read other reviews.

If you are the right size,there are one piece Olympia Phantoms still out there for $290 new.

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Old 02-03-2014, 10:59 PM   #7
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I have a one piece roadcrafter which I think is a bit more cumbersome than my mish mash of two piece gear. One piece gear is great if it fits perfectly -no gaps and everything is covered. Two piece is more flexible in spirit and literally!
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:34 PM   #8
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I have a one piece but wish I had a two piece
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:39 PM   #9
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I have 1 and 2 piece, prefer 1 piece in winter and 2 piece in summer. I have had a areostitch and to me they just are not worth it. If I had money flying out ta my ass, yea,,,, I. would have another but I crash too much to be replacing a high dollar suites every year. Buy from motorcycle closeouts at the end of the season. Great deals at times. Wreck or burn a hole in a 300$ or less suite is no biggie.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:46 AM   #10
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Joe Rocket Survivor Suit

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I don't think there is a 4-season 1 piece. I live in San Diego and its always 70 degrees (not really but you get the point). I found the Joe Rocket Survivor suit to "appear" to have the best ventilation with their "Big Air" vent system.

It was 75 when i tried it on a ride for about 15 minutes and was soaking with sweat. The chest seemed to be okay, but i think, you will find it's the legs that lack proper venting.

I ended up going with 2 piece combo of AGV pants and Tourmaster Jacket.

Agree that its a PITA to pull over and add liners in the rain, but I cant stand sweating my sack off while riding - I'd rather lean to the chillier side than the sweatier side....

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I have one piece and two piece.

One huge reason I like one piece: I'll wear the whole thing. Two piece I tend to just grab the jacket when running down the street. Pants do no good sitting on the living room floor.
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I have one piece and two piece.

One huge reason I like one piece: I'll wear the whole thing. Two piece I tend to just grab the jacket when running down the street. Pants do no good sitting on the living room floor.

Gotta admit,,,,, you are dead on right.
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. Pants do no good sitting on the living room floor.
Depends on if they are yours or hers...
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:06 AM   #14
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Thanks to all who responded, your sentiments are pretty much in line with what I was assuming.

Here in high desert country it gets cold quick at higher elevations and I'm a rider who likes to ride year round (Minus the snow, I don't enjoy riding my 500lbs+ bike in that crap!). We take trips in sept-thru-march and for those trips I would like a nice purpose built setup for these times to ride in more comfort thru cold weather. I have heated gloves but dont feel the need to add more heated gear on my body, rather just a nice suit.


So in doing further research here's what I have found that is tipping the scales in certain product favors: Info highlighted on each product...




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First Gear Kathmandu 2-piece = $560 w/ Pants




My best option so far, water bladder, adjustable D3O armor, removable thick liner, is cheaper than the First Gear Suit.


Olympia X-Moto 2 -piece = $440 w/ pants





Only CE armor, venting system looks to be cumbersome. I like the liner option but the pants look to have the wind breaker type liner for rain inside rather the pant being fully waterproof.




Scorpion Passport = $429




2nd in running, SAS-tech armor which is higher end CE armor, removable liner and @ $429 is a steal.



First Gear Expedition = $584



Most expensive, no liner


Olympia Odyssey = $449



Really great suit for the price, CE armor, no liner. bummer


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Old 02-07-2014, 01:03 PM   #15
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....And in line with typical budget friendly decisions I went with the Scorpion Passport. I now can also purchase a compression suit for the difference of the Kathmandu setup. I'm happy.

Here's a few pics in detail as well as a great review:















I found an outlet on line that is selling them for $350 Shipped!!!

Thanks to all that added info, I appreciate it!!
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