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Old 04-05-2015, 04:03 PM   #1
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Tick Tick Tick says my 1150

So, after many videos and too acquisition, I set off to do the 36Kmi service on my "new to me" Brunhilda (R1150GSA, 2002, single spark, 36K miles), Did the usual fluid stuffs, valve adjustments, throttle body sync with my new to me TwinMax. All buttoned up, sonded great, out I go for a little putt.... about 60 miles, up to 5.5KRPM but mostly in the 3.5-4.5 RMP range.

When parking in the garage, I notice a "tick tick tick" from the left head that is not present in the right, and the idle is high (IMHO) at 1400 RPM. So, break out the Twin Max, get the idle down to just above 1K with the TwinMax set to almost full sensitivity, I see the needed bounce equadistant across the '0' just touching the edges of the "1' on either side. Still right cylendar ticking. Pulling the throttle a bit, there is some drift to the left side, so I take care of that with the throttle cable. Now, it's better than it was, TwinMax is almost at full sensitivity and all looks good to my very untrained eye (remember, I come from Harley Land).

Still a tick tick tick coming from the left cylinder.

My hunch is, I need to go in and check my work on that left set of valves.

Me thinks I need to recheck my valve adjustment work on that left side unless someone here has one of those "push here and it all gets better" solutions.

What say ye?
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:12 PM   #2
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By all means check again, but i wouldn't obsess, these engines are tickity, noisy, clangy devices at the best of times.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:13 PM   #3
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3 things I would suggest checking...
1) does it go away/get quite when you pull in the clutch?
...if so pretty normal.
2) did you check the throttle cables to make sure the metal adjusters were all the way seated into the TB's?
3) was the cam chain tensioner ever replaced with the updated part?
I'm sure others will chime in shortly!
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:13 PM   #4
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Check your work with the engine stone cold. Also check rocker arm clearance. Often when valve lash is adjusted, engine noises change.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:19 PM   #5
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3 things I would suggest checking...
1) does it go away/get quite when you pull in the clutch?
...if so pretty normal.
2) did you check the throttle cables to make sure the metal adjusters were all the way seated into the TB's?
3) was the cam chain tensioner ever replaced with the updated part?
I'm sure others will chime in shortly!
Thanks!

1) Didn't try that

2) yes

3) yes, I did that early on, about 5K miles ago
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:20 PM   #6
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Use 4 feeler gauges, 1 for each valve on the side you are adjusting and then do the same on the other side. Repeat several times as they seem to be very fussy when adjusting. This seems to help in taking up any slack in each sides valve train. I often use a go/no go measurement when dealing with valve adjusts. They will always tighten up, not loosen as the miles go on the engine.

There is always going to be a bit of slack in the cam chains etc, so the best you'll get is really close. A tick sound is better than no tick in my mind.

I always found my R1100 very fussy to do valve adjusts.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:59 PM   #7
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Yup - I did the 4 feeler gauges, 2 on the exhaust, 2 on the intake.

Me thinks I left something too loose on the left head. I just shot this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzNJUsRqPCo

Should I open up the left side and re adjust, or ride it as is?
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:02 PM   #8
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Rocker arm end float adjustment in the HOW at the bottom of the page. OREPAD
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:10 PM   #9
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could this be the cam chain tensioner?
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:13 PM   #10
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could this be the cam chain tensioner?
Put the new one in about 5Kmiles ago. Didn't notice this tick until after I fiddled with the valve clearances and TB sync today.
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Rocker arm end float adjustment in the HOW at the bottom of the page. OREPAD
Thanks - just read through it. Have the tools, will take a crack at that tomorrow night.
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Considering the relatively low milage and the fact that you have just now worked on the bike, i would leave the end float adjustment out of the equation until satisfied that what you have previously done is ok. In short i reckon you are over thinking it all. Please report back with your progress.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:57 PM   #13
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Considering the relatively low milage and the fact that you have just now worked on the bike, i would leave the end float adjustment out of the equation until satisfied that what you have previously done is ok. In short i reckon you are over thinking it all. Please report back with your progress.
Well, I think the plan is going to be:
open it up and redo the valve lash on that head

if (it still ticks) {
go after rocker end play
}
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:04 PM   #14
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Well, I think the plan is going to be:
open it up and redo the valve lash on that head

if (it still ticks) {
go after rocker end play
}

You should take the extra time and set the endplay. Then you'll know its right and wont have to go back a third time. It's not a big deal.

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Old 04-05-2015, 06:28 PM   #15
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hold one

Hold one finger on the throtlebody cam where the cable is an feel if the tticktick goes away. My is doing that.
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