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Old 03-04-2015, 02:04 PM   #1
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Dodge Durango Vs Ford Explorer

I'm in need of a 7 seater. Anyone have had experience with these cars? I have it narrowed down between these two. I have also seen that a Dodge Journey RT can be had for the same price as a entry level Durango...not excited about the looks of the Journey though. Will be looking at used so 2011-2013 more than likely.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:08 PM   #2
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Experience w/Fords...Dodge, not so much...

I've had an Expedition and a couple of Explorers. Not much bad I can say about any of them...except the mileage. The Expedition was a thirsty V8, the Explorers were both 6's. The mileage for the 6 cylinder vehicles was "modestly" better than the 5.4L V8...but neither had the passenger capacity that the "Valdez" had.

Do you "really" need 7 passenger capacity? If so, does it really need to be an SUV / 4WD? The most efficient 7 passenger vehicles are typically the Grand Caravan / Oddyssey type vans...which may get 30 - 50% better fuel efficiency and a more comfortable ride....but won't offer the ground clearance, 4WD, and towing capacity that a body-on-frame SUV offers.

One other thought...dunno where you are in the world, but you might consider a Hyundai Santa Fe or Veracruz SUV. These are unibody (vs Body on Frame...but so is a modern Explorer, too) vehicles. I've got 150K on an '09 Sonata and am very pleased with the Engineering and Build Quality of the Hyundai products.

My only Dodge experiences? I had an Intrepid sedan which ate three transmissions over ten years...99% of the mileage was highway. Can't imagine they've gotten a whole lot better under Fiat leadership...but, in fairness, the minivans seem to continue to be well-regarded.

YMMV, of course...
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:11 PM   #3
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I can't bring myself to drive a minivan. Plus I occasionally tow. The Durango and Explorer V6 both get mileage in the 20s which is acceptable to me. The Hyundai is nice but with 3rd row up offers no additional cargo space. Same goes for the Kia. I do have to have 7 seats.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:47 PM   #4
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My sis-in-law and brother went through this same scenario at Christmas when she simultaneously lost her company Jeep and he smoked the motor in his Excursion. He has a new F-150 so they wanted an Excursion replacement. They really thought the Explorer was coming home with them.

But they came home with the Durango instead. Sis-in-law is also known as gadget girl. She liked the Durango because they got a much higher spec truck for the same money. Plus they liked the size and power better than the Explorer. She isn't afraid of Dodge reliability but my brother is. I guess she won there.

I got to sport around in it a bit and it is a hell of a nice SUV. Most importantly it will haul their multitude of kids and pull their boat, tractor and dump trailer.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:50 PM   #5
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On paper the Durango is better. More cargo space, higher tow capacity, RWD. Used prices appear to be around 23-24k for a 2011 whereas the explorer can be had for that price in a 2012-2013 model.
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:17 PM   #6
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My son has a 2002 Durango. Has the 4.7 ltr v-8. Full time 4x4. A bit hard on gas, as any full time 4x4 will be. Around town about 13-14 depends on your right foot of course. Almost 20 on the road if you keep the spds reasonable. It is actually fairly comfortable with all the seats filled. Dramatically more stable than the Grand Cherokee with a load or trailer on it. It should be, it's much more truck like and no where near as capable off road. His has about 150,000 on the clock. He would buy it again. the only issue it has ever had is a bad brake sensor. CV boots once since he bought it. And it had balls joints at about 120,000. CV boots and ball joints can be expected on IFS trucks. He bought it with about 60,000 on it. I can't think of much he has complained about with it. We do almost all our own work on our vehicles.
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:44 PM   #7
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The new Honda Pilot can seat 8. Hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like there's some cargo room with the third seat up.
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The only Honda I can see myself owning is a Honda lawnmower. Nothing they create stirs any emotion to me. They are the very definition of econobox. Granted they are reliable and last forever but I don't want to be stuck with a boring car forever
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:54 PM   #9
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The only Honda I can see myself owning is a Honda lawnmower. Nothing they create stirs any emotion to me. They are the very definition of econobox. Granted they are reliable and last forever but I don't want to be stuck with a boring car forever
Would never consider a 50k Honda Pilot an econobox. Depending on where you live you won't be "stuck" with the the ford or dodge long enough to get bord, as the rust will keep you entertained...
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Oh, the 4Runner has 7 seats, so does does an option for the Rav4 and Nissan Pathfinder.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:01 PM   #11
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The only Honda I can see myself owning is a Honda lawnmower. Nothing they create stirs any emotion to me. They are the very definition of econobox. Granted they are reliable and last forever but I don't want to be stuck with a boring car forever
Pilots are very nice, tough SUVs, that can also tow beyond what you may think.

I'd get a used GMC Envoy, straight six, but only will seat five, with the gas mileage of something that will seat seven. But, nice little truck that will tow better than any Explorer. Plus great off road.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:38 PM   #12
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Pilots are very nice, tough SUVs, that can also tow beyond what you may think.

I'd get a used GMC Envoy, straight six, but only will seat five, with the gas mileage of something that will seat seven. But, nice little truck that will tow better than any Explorer. Plus great off road.

I have an Envoy in Kuwait when I go there for work. Great truck doesn't ask anything but oil. But too small for what I need in the States.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:01 PM   #13
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The only Honda I can see myself owning is a Honda lawnmower. Nothing they create stirs any emotion to me.
I guess I could understand that if you were considering a Cayenne or something, but you narrowed it down to an Explorer or Durango. My 85 year-old parents drive an Explorer!
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:09 PM   #14
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The only Honda I can see myself owning is a Honda lawnmower. I don't want to be stuck with a boring car forever
I've owned both.

Pilot = BORING
Riding mower = more fun than the Pilot
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:30 PM   #15
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I've owned both.



Pilot = BORING

Riding mower = more fun than the Pilot

That's what I figured.
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