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Old 12-16-2012, 10:37 AM   #136
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As does Dodge, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Jeep, or anything else with a Dana, Eaton, or corporate semi-floating axle. It's worked well for over 100 years in many iterations...
That may well be, but it still doesn't make an abundance of sense to me given that axle shafts aren't made of bearing steel.

This S10 is the first vehicle I've owned with a C-clip axle, so they're new to me.

As for the bearing arrangement, what works works, I guess.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:45 AM   #137
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Use to own GM then turned to Ford. Much better bang for the buck. Now with Honda, couldn't be happier. Ridgelines rock. Everyone thinks they need a truck for that once or twice a year they haul drywall or plywood. Buy a Honda get reliability comfort and the truck you will need. I have many many times hauled more than 1000kilos in my truck trailer combo and it did it with out a blink of an eye. This is all the truck most people need. Very underrated.
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Ridgelines aren't considered trucks in northern Ontario. In my town there are more pickup trucks than cars and I haven't seen a single Ridgeline except for the odd summer tourist.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:50 AM   #138
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[QUOTE=Nailhead;20262139]That may well be, but it still doesn't make an abundance of sense to me given that axle shafts aren't made of bearing steel.


Not that I like it, look how many bike/car/truck motors spin their overhead cams directly on their aluminum heads - no bearings other than an oil film...

always wondered about dry starts after oil changes, running low on oil, etc
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:24 PM   #139
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Used Vehicles!

Ever notice how the high end vehicles always seem in better condition than the plain janes. Reason for that is the person who can afford the higher end vehicle to start with can usually afford to get it serviced regularly. The plain janers tend to be more neglected, mostly by women. Can I say that? When you see an ad for a used car and it says, woman owner, run. 90% of the time it hasn't even had the oil changed. There are exceptions of course. Try to buy new if you can. Take care of them and they should all last a while.
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:36 PM   #140
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That may well be, but it still doesn't make an abundance of sense to me given that axle shafts aren't made of bearing steel.


Not that I like it, look how many bike/car/truck motors spin their overhead cams directly on their aluminum heads - no bearings other than an oil film...

always wondered about dry starts after oil changes, running low on oil, etc
A pressurized oil film, remember-- those cams aren't (shouldn't be) actually touching the metal of the bearing itself.

That axle shaft is subject to an unpressurized "catch-as-catch-can" splash oiling system in contrast.

Not a big confidence builder given what'll happen if that bearing fails.
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:46 PM   #141
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That axle shaft is subject to an unpressurized "catch-as-catch-can" splash oiling system in contrast.

Not a big confidence builder given what'll happen if that bearing fails.
I've read that if you change diff oil after the first hundred miles that you'll double its life. This was some time ago; the rationale was that the first hundred miles would scrub off any remaining grit from machining and suspend it in the oil.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:28 PM   #142
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That may well be, but it still doesn't make an abundance of sense to me given that axle shafts aren't made of bearing steel.
i don't recall the steel, but the bearing end of the shafts were induction hardened after machining. (also don't remember the customer or if there were any finishing operations. )
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:09 PM   #143
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Try to buy new if you can. Take care of them and they should all last a while.
Thanks to people like you, I have saved many tens of thousands over the last 20 years in depreciation costs. I pay cash and buy used (non euro)cars in good condition. I usually drive them until 150K miles.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #144
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Thanks to people like you, I have saved many tens of thousands over the last 20 years in depreciation costs. I pay cash and buy used (non euro)cars in good condition. I usually drive them until 150K miles.
You're welcome to my ass-gas infused seats. Well worth the depreciation.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:21 PM   #145
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That may well be, but it still doesn't make an abundance of sense to me given that axle shafts aren't made of bearing steel.

This S10 is the first vehicle I've owned with a C-clip axle, so they're new to me.

As for the bearing arrangement, what works works, I guess.

Actually, they are made from tool steel (many, many different varieties of treatable steel), hardened, then precision ground, just like a bearing.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:14 PM   #146
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Here's one for the books, my 2004 Buick Rendezvous transmission speed sensor failed, causing the transmission computer to perform hard shifts, which broke the transmission output ring gear, which chipped the planetary gear assembly, and the sun gear on the transfer case. Because of a failed $20 sensor, I now need a new transmission computer, transmission, and transfer case.
Oh, and all of you with GM AWD cars from the early oughts remember: Your rear diff fluid needs to be changed every 50k miles. It take 2 quarts. GM sells the diff fluid at their dealers for $50 per quart. OEHQ.com sells it for half of that, but that is still felony robbery for a quart of fluid that won't get you drunk.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #147
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Here's one for the books, my 2004 Buick Rendezvous transmission speed sensor failed, causing the transmission computer to perform hard shifts, which broke the transmission output ring gear, which chipped the planetary gear assembly, and the sun gear on the transfer case. Because of a failed $20 sensor, I now need a new transmission computer, transmission, and transfer case.
Oh, and all of you with GM AWD cars from the early oughts remember: Your rear diff fluid needs to be changed every 50k miles. It take 2 quarts. GM sells the diff fluid at their dealers for $50 per quart. OEHQ.com sells it for half of that, but that is still felony robbery for a quart of fluid that won't get you drunk.

Hmm. Maybe that explains why BMW buys their X3 transmissions from GM.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:28 PM   #148
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Here's one for the books, my 2004 Buick Rendezvous transmission speed sensor failed, causing the transmission computer to perform hard shifts, which broke the transmission output ring gear, which chipped the planetary gear assembly, and the sun gear on the transfer case. Because of a failed $20 sensor, I now need a new transmission computer, transmission, and transfer case.
Oh, and all of you with GM AWD cars from the early oughts remember: Your rear diff fluid needs to be changed every 50k miles. It take 2 quarts. GM sells the diff fluid at their dealers for $50 per quart. OEHQ.com sells it for half of that, but that is still felony robbery for a quart of fluid that won't get you drunk.


You should feel worse about admitting to owning a Rendezvous .
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:03 PM   #149
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You should feel worse about admitting to owning a Rendezvous .
What he feels worst about is the fact that he kept driving with the failed speed sensor and hard shifts, which is the reason the gear damage occurred.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:40 PM   #150
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How many of you have experienced the leaky crimp fittings on the oil and tranny cooler supply and return lines. For example 05 Chevy truck (oil) 06 Chevy 2500 (oil) Pontiac grand Prix (tranny).

grand Prix had tranny replaced under warranty under 60K miles WTF

Chevy wheel bearing design is garbage as well.
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