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Old 01-11-2014, 07:40 PM   #1
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Wink Toyota Debuts Hydrogen-Powered Vehicle, Coming to Market in 2015

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Old 01-12-2014, 10:13 AM   #2
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Are they going to mass produce them or is it going to be like Honda, who has had them on the road for over 5 years, but in very limited numbers? And of course the limiting factor is fuel stations.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:54 PM   #3
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And of course the limiting factor is fuel stations.
This. A hydrogen-powered vehicle for 2015 is way too early, unless it's part of a fleet which has at its home base a hydrogen fuel station.

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Old 01-13-2014, 08:06 AM   #4
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This. A hydrogen-powered vehicle for 2015 is way too early, unless it's part of a fleet which has at its home base a hydrogen fuel station.

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The good people of Kalifornia are going to build 100 filling stations throughout the state to make this possible.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:47 AM   #5
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But...

Where is the hydrogen going to come from, and at what cost?

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Old 01-13-2014, 09:39 AM   #6
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You are not supposed to ask that question.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:52 AM   #7
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Where is the hydrogen going to come from, and at what cost?

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Tons of cheap....well as cheap as oil production....ways to make it...not sure what the best way is.

Personally THIS is the way of the future....cars run like cars....same way your gas or diesel car will run....but the by product is only water.

They may do a hybrid type car with hydrogen being the fuel source, but I really don't think that will become the main deal....just like it is now.

The real key is people want their cars to be just like the cars they always had. Battery powered cars are not the answer in any form....at least with battery tech. that is here now or here in the near future. Spend all that money on this battery dead end put in hydrogen fuel stations everywhere and it would be a done deal.

Only real problem is the Hindenburg thing....and the petrol gas is really close enough to the same thing as to be a real wash.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:39 AM   #8
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I wouldn't say they're necessarily cheap, but the most commonly-used method is steam methane reforming.

Unless and until steam methane reforming can be done economically on a small scale, hydrogen will have a distribution and dispensing problem.

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Old 01-14-2014, 04:50 AM   #9
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I wouldn't say they're necessarily cheap, but the most commonly-used method is steam methane reforming.

Unless and until steam methane reforming can be done economically on a small scale, hydrogen will have a distribution and dispensing problem.

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Not knowing what steam reforming meant, I looked it up. The byproducts of which is carbon monoxide/dioxide. If we burn large amounts of fossil fuels to produce the hydrogen, then what is the net gain here? We get a green fuzzy feeling at the tail pipe burning hydrogen, but further up the line we're burning hydrocarbons on an industrial scale to get it. Why bother?
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