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Old 08-27-2014, 10:17 AM   #1
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Cbr650f

Hi guys!

I need to buy a new bike. In fact it will be my first bike although I have been riding other bikes for the past year. I've ridden a GS500, KLR650, CBR250, V-star, and my GF ninja 300. So I have ridden a few different bikes for a total of a couple thousand miles and I am fairly confident I know what I’m looking for. I love sports bikes but after sitting on a gixxer 600 and a zx-6r I know I can't live with that...I love going for long trips and it's far too uncomfortable. So I am looking for a 600 ish ''sport touring bike''.

I was about to pull the triger on a CBR650F but realised how expensive it was! And being a new bike there is also very few honest reviews out there.

Here (in canada) you can still buy the SV650SF (fully faired). The dealer I visited is asking 6500$ for the ABS version as an ‘’end of season deal’’. The red thing is about 3k$ more at 9500$ with abs. It is also 500$ more than an aprilia shiver/Fz-09 and about 1500$ more than a GSX650F,ninja 650R, FZ6R.

Is it THAT good? I mean, 500$ better than a FZ-09??
The sv650 is an ''old'' bike but there is a boat load of aftermarket parts available and for 3000$ I can buy handle bar risers, corbin seat, luggage and exhaust and still be more than 1K$ under the cost of the CBR!

So what you think? Is the CBR worth the extra money?
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:19 PM   #2
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That does sound like a lot of money (especially for a first bike). You'd probably do a lot better if you wait a year or two. It's hard to get a good deal on brand new models. Maybe you should get a used bike first and ride that for a couple years.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:24 PM   #3
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A third thread for this bike? Really?
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:11 PM   #4
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A third thread for this bike? Really?
Yeah i know... but seriously those two threads started before the bike was even available and went in every direction except giving honnest and clear opinions about the bike. People saying if i was in the market, I think that, etc.

But what about the real thing, people who know? Is there anyone anywhere who bought the bike? If not then it's not worth it for sure and I will walk away.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:18 AM   #5
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Have you checked out the DL650 V-Strom. Much more comfortable than any of the bikes you mentioned, can go well over 250 miles on a tank of gas, tons of aftermarket support, handles great, versatile...

Of the bikes you mentioned, if I was cross shopping them and lookig for a bike to do some road trips on - for me it would come down to the CBR650 or the FZR650. The FZ-09 is a great bike, but I don't think it would work as well on a long ride. It's a hooligan bike. The Aprilia - not enough dealer support. SV650F - V-Strom is a better choice, IMO. Ninja 650R, also a great bike, but I think either the Honda or Yamaha would do better on a road trip. The Kawasaki Twin has a reputation for being vibey.

Now I will qualify all that by saying of the bikes in question, the only one I have owned is the V-Strom - and I don't feel any need to have any of the others.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:53 AM   #6
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Amigo,

I hear your dilemma and I am/been there also. The way I see it is the following two ways of buying a bike; a) buy what moves you and b) buy what is intelligent. I bough a KLR and scooter with criteria B, if I buy the vespa or the Ducati they will be with criteria A.

If the new honda appeals to you and can pay for it, then GO for it. For me it is no different that a ninja650 or the GSX650F, so I would not pay that much more for the honda, I would buy the gsx650F from suzuki, unless there is something I am not seeing they are the same bikes (dealer support can be an issue).

Decide how you like to buy your bikes and the answer will be easier.

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Old 08-28-2014, 03:55 PM   #7
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If you like the CBR650F but are concerned somewhat about price and what not, I'd give the CB500x a strong consideration if you haventr already.

In fact if it was my choice, it would be my only consideration. That an the FZ-07 are the top 2 first bike choices hands down atm.

Rated a 10/10, dirt cheap, extremely versatile, 70mpg and fun as hell. Not sure what else you're looking for. Another 100cc's? pfff

https://rideapart.com/articles/ridea...w-honda-cb500x
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:38 PM   #8
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I would buy the gsx650F from suzuki, unless there is something I am not seeing they are the same bikes (dealer support can be an issue).

Damasovi

I own the GSX 650F & I love it, it suits my needs exactly. My only problem is that I cannot buy another one here in the US when this one is due for replacement. (I usually keep my bikes for 7-8 years, approx. 45,000 miles) If I were forced to trade my GSX 650F right now, I'd go with the Honda. Yes, it's very similar & somewhat more expensive, but for the higher price, the Honda gives ABS, a few more HP, 30 lbs less weight, & Honda build quality. Also those beautiful stainless pipes, which are worth several hundred dollars just by themselves! They remind me of the old 400F, one of my all time classics.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:13 AM   #9
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Bought the matte black model 2 weeks ago. It's a little more expensive than its direct competitors, but was still in my comfort zone. The main things that finally swayed me:
- It oozes quality, fit, and finish compared to the FZR6 and Ninja 650
- It's a new design and will likely hold its value for a bit longer than the others
- Decent tank size and range
- Comfortable ergonomics
- Styling that's more acceptable to us (ahem) "mature" riders

There's really not much I can find fault with so far. Great engine, great handling, good looks. There's a few concessions to cost cutting, but they're well done and not very noticeable (cable clutch, steel swingarm, welded, single piece clip ons, no suspension damping adjustment). I'll probably put on s taller windscreen, maybe a fender eliminator. I have 35 years of street riding experience on a wide range of bikes, so calling this a "beginners bike" is a bit of a stretch. I think a lot of riders would be very happy with it under most real world riding conditions.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:18 AM   #10
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Bought the matte black model 2 weeks ago. It's a little more expensive than its direct competitors, but was still in my comfort zone. The main things that finally swayed me:
- It oozes quality, fit, and finish compared to the FZR6 and Ninja 650
- It's a new design and will likely hold its value for a bit longer than the others
- Decent tank size and range
- Comfortable ergonomics
- Styling that's more acceptable to us (ahem) "mature" riders

There's really not much I can find fault with so far. Great engine, great handling, good looks. There's a few concessions to cost cutting, but they're well done and not very noticeable (cable clutch, steel swingarm, welded, single piece clip ons, no suspension damping adjustment). I'll probably put on s taller windscreen, maybe a fender eliminator. I have 35 years of street riding experience on a wide range of bikes, so calling this a "beginners bike" is a bit of a stretch. I think a lot of riders would be very happy with it under most real world riding conditions.
Thanks for the write up. I'll be interested in hearing more of your experience as you rack up some miles.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:48 AM   #11
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....steel swingarm...
CB650F = aluminum swingarm, frame is steel
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:41 PM   #12
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Been regretting selling the CBR600RR until I rode one again and remembered how much it hurts my body.

Wanted a middleweight bike. Interceptor is too big. Versys is too big. Ninja 1000 is too big. Wanted fairings. Wanted not a twin.
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Old 04-28-2015, 04:17 PM   #13
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Among the new bikes on the market the CBR650F was the most appealing to me; but I chose instead a 2006 CBR600F4i with only 5700 miles on it, virtually mint condition. There are lots of F4is around, but finding an unmolested one is harder.


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Old 04-28-2015, 04:33 PM   #14
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Unless you're sure you want the power and expense, you'll find the CB500R more than capable as a relatively new rider.

My personal progression of (street) bikes was GS500E, Ninja 650R, Yamaha FZ6.

It was 12 years old when I bought it and wasn't as refined as the Yamaha or as fun as the 650R, but that GS500 was very useful. I wish I'd kept it as a spare bike and done some suspension upgrades.

The new CB500 series is lighter, quicker, has EFI, available ABS, hard luggage, etc.

If you can stand to set your ego aside for a minute, it is probably the ideal choice.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:01 PM   #15
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Thoughts on the 650f

Hi jacksparrow. A little over a year ago I was in a similar position. I was riding a cbr 250r for three seasons as a new rider. I considered the 500 but did not test ride it. I did test ride the new 650f and I have to say I was underwhelmed. It seems like a well engineered and put together bike. Coming from a 250 it felt much less responsive, a lot heavier, slower turning in and I thought the engine was underwhelming given the cc. The rear brakes felt dead to me. Then I test rode a triumph street triple r. At the time triumph was running a great promotion which is why I considered it. Day and night difference. I was totally blown away by the triumph and ended up buying one. With trade in it actually cost me less than the Honda even though the msrp was higher. Is it a practical bike? Probably not although it is comfortable enough and I know there are people who tour on it. But the performance is way beyond that of the Honda. I can appreciate that if the cbr 650f is too pricey I'd say look at the 500 or look at used bikes. Best of luck!
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