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Old 01-02-2013, 07:13 PM   #136
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2008 Yamaha FZ-1, I took a full day, rode from Carmel Valley to Hollister, south to Paso Robles via 25. Then on south to San Luis Obispo and back up to Carmel via Hwy 1. A phenomenal combination of some of California's best roads! The weather was perfect, it was a mid week day so there was very little traffic, everything was perfect.

When I got home, my wife asked me "how was your ride?" . . .

I thought for a second, and realized that there wasn't that usual "smile" after a great ride, and there was no lingering euphoria. I answered, "OK" and it was then that I recognized that although the ride was fantastic, the bike was merely competent, it did everything I asked of it, but it left me merely disinterested.

That's the lowest form of compliment one can give, "it was OK", WOW, that;s the definition of boring!

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Old 01-03-2013, 05:00 AM   #137
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Ditto. Bought a new '08 and it "was the best bike I ever hated." It earned the quote. Nothing really wrong w/it: fast enough, handled well, looked pretty good, etc. I just didn't want to ride it. Wide between the knees, a little top-heavy, and no low-end oomph. Yech.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:59 AM   #138
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Triumph Speed Triple.

Technically the motor is fantastic. Great power, totally linear, torque everywhere, absolutely controllable anywhere in the rev range.

And totally bo-o-o-o-o-o-r-ing to me.

Sold that bike in 9 months. It did everything I asked it to do except create excitement.

Next most boring bike for me? Any J4 inline four. Meh. 100% exactly the same as all the rest.

I'm rather enjoying my Monster EVO. A Lot. Tons of engine character, fantastic handling, huge garage appeal and comfortable enough for 500 mile days. I did an SS1k without any issues at all on it.



Different strokes...but I finally found the right bike for me.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:53 PM   #139
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I restored a '74 CB550. Orignal 4 into 4 pipes and all,... and Sunrise Orange. Every time I rode that bike it put a smile on my face. I even toured a fair amount. I'd come out of the hotel and be so excited to get back on the road. But I did chase maintenance just a bit, and it was a bit too small for some of the touring I liked to do. Nothing epic, but still a couple thousand miles in a week.

I got busy in my life and figured I needed something much more gas 'n go, plus a little more highway power. I bough an 09 F650GS. Amazing bike, and did everything very well. But it never put that same smile on my face. I'd come in from a ride and really think about how I felt. It was always, "pretty good I guess". I got worried I had made a mistake. I'd went out on several mid-week rides to see if I could shake what I was feeling. I'd try really hard to get that feeling and smile on my face. Almost forcing it. I analyzed everything about the bike. Nothing wrong at all, the bike was perfect, I should love it. It was very weird. Not boring per say, but not inspiring either. And I never really felt connected to my surroundings or the joy of the ride.

I said 'what the hell', and sold the 650 twin and bought a '77 R100/7. It was like a huge relief.

Strange experience.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:57 AM   #140
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:07 PM   #141
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'98 Concours. I was excited about getting a nice comfy touring bike when I bought it, spent a number of hours making it like I wanted it, rode it to FL and back, nice smooth ride, kept the weather off me, plenty of engine.....BORRRING! Sold it soon after.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:45 PM   #142
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If somebody can find a Speed Triple boring, imagine me on my ST1300. I take some solace in this. Would Rossi be bored on an S1000RR? I guess that Ducati MotoGP nag bored him.

I have a cousin-in-law who flew F-14s for a long time, finally as an instructor pilot. Then he went to the Super Hornet. With his analytical mindset, I bet he found both jets a bit boring. They are, after all, just weapons platforms. So it goes.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:40 PM   #143
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Anyone who has never ridden a "boring bike" .....just hasn't ridden enough bikes - or can't tell the difference
I have rode a bunch of bikes, even my first "noob" bikes were a hoot in the right conditions and they were just 150cc crappy Chinese bikes.

Heck, as much as I hated my Vulcan 900 and how unenjoyable rides were on it, it wasn't boring.

But I guess any bike can be boring in the right conditions, hundreds of miles of straight roads will make me yawn on whatever bike I happen to be riding.

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A few thoughts.
That is very odd about the DL1000 as I have an SV1000 which is basically the same engine and frame and it is absolutely thrilling to ride.
Da f*ck? There is nothing even remotely close to similar in between the SV and DL frames. Engine? The DL is 30hp down compared to the SV and there are quite a few differences in the engine to blame for that.

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I consider all late model motorcycles to be fake, especially Japanese bikes. They have been so highly refined that they have no character, no personality, no "soul" left.


I guess a bunch of Honda engineers designing a crankshaft figured out that balancing it and shaving weight would remove the soul from the engine. Creating a 160kg dry weight super sport was just an unwanted side effect of removing "character".

Everything you guys call "character" is nothing but either one of two things:

- Traits inherent to the design.
- Design faults due to engineering limitations or just crappy design.

Add a counter balancer to the engine and some people cry they removed the character from the engine

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Old 01-06-2013, 08:56 PM   #144
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85 k100 rt
did everything required of it
from commuting to dirt rd touring
still just a car engine.
boring
went to a pantah special
very little and hard suspension
uncomfortable
but was more fun

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:16 AM   #145
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Well yes.
For me, nothing excites like the FEEL of power and speed, and its better for me if I get it at lower speeds.
I do not want something that vibrates so much parts fall off (Old Triumph 500 twins) but like a bit of sound and feel when getting on a bike, like almost any thumper or the old Triumph 750 twins, and the Harley's.

I really like singles where you feel the power pulses, light nimble bikes with torque and the feel and sound of power pulses.
Those bikes are so fun to ride they can make you not want to stop.

The bike does not HAVE to have flaws, like bad seats, wide gas tanks, crappy suspension parts, reliability issues and so on, its just that most older bikes did have some of those flaws.

My current TU250 is a bit (ok very) small and under powered, but it FEELS like you are going warp speed sometimes, has the (little) thumper power pulses that makes me enjoy EVERY ride, and EVERY ride, even all day ones are too short.
Its a rare bike I can do a 14 hour ride on and 1/2 hour after I get home I want to go back out on.

If you have never had a bike you felt like that about, you have not found the right bike.





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I have rode a bunch of bikes, even my first "noob" bikes were a hoot in the right conditions and they were just 150cc crappy Chinese bikes.

Heck, as much as I hated my Vulcan 900 and how unenjoyable rides were on it, it wasn't boring.

But I guess any bike can be boring in the right conditions, hundreds of miles of straight roads will make me yawn on whatever bike I happen to be riding.



Da f*ck? There is nothing even remotely close to similar in between the SV and DL frames. Engine? The DL is 30hp down compared to the SV and there are quite a few differences in the engine to blame for that.





I guess a bunch of Honda engineers designing a crankshaft figured out that balancing it and shaving weight would remove the soul from the engine. Creating a 160kg dry weight super sport was just an unwanted side effect of removing "character".

Everything you guys call "character" is nothing but either one of two things:

- Traits inherent to the design.
- Design faults due to engineering limitations or just crappy design.

Add a counter balancer to the engine and some people cry they removed the character from the engine
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #146
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Reserve this space for a future comment about a bike that was just mentioned as having character.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:21 AM   #147
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For me, any bike that will not lift the front wheel easily is boring - except (and I was surprised to see it on this list - twice) the little Ninja 250. I bought a 1999 model 3 years ago, for my daughter, and I just can not stay off of it. There is something about it's light weight, and small size that makes it an absolute blast to ride - as long as I stay off of the slab.
I have owned plenty of big Dual Sport singles (XR600, KTM620, DR650, DRZ400S), and they are all pretty boring, with heavy, slow revving motors and sedate power delivery, but they will snap up a decent wheelie when forced.
Probably the most boring bikes I have owned were a 1998 Triumph Thunderbird Adventurer (decent motor, but just too heavy and long), and a Honda VT500 (this bike *looked* like it would be a blast, but its motor was utterly gutless and uninspiring).
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:35 AM   #148
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Maybe you just needed to fit a pumper carb on the big singles, my dr650 would loft the front wheel with just the throttle in the first 3 gears (stock gearing).
That WAS fun.

I wish they would make a street bike with the dr650 engine.



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For me, any bike that will not lift the front wheel easily is boring - except (and I was surprised to see it on this list - twice) the little Ninja 250. I bought a 1999 model 3 years ago, for my daughter, and I just can not stay off of it. There is something about it's light weight, and small size that makes it an absolute blast to ride - as long as I stay off of the slab.
I have owned plenty of big Dual Sport singles (XR600, KTM620, DR650, DRZ400S), and they are all pretty boring, with heavy, slow revving motors and sedate power delivery, but they will snap up a decent wheelie when forced.
Probably the most boring bikes I have owned were a 1998 Triumph Thunderbird Adventurer (decent motor, but just too heavy and long), and a Honda VT500 (this bike *looked* like it would be a blast, but its motor was utterly gutless and uninspiring).
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:14 PM   #149
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rode a harley once after changing the front tire on the bike for a guy. I was dumbfounded...i knew it would be slow but I was not prepared for a 1450cc bike to be that dog ass slow. truly pathetic, with enough vibration to damage internal organs. truly a defective POS, could not believe that people line up to pay 16k for that. the whole harley scene is a colossal triumph of calculated marketing over common sense
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:39 PM   #150
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To start with:
DL-1000, what to say? It was comfortable, competent and had a big twin in it. I should have liked it a lot. The saddle and riding position nearly put me to sleep and the power delivery was not at all.. exciting.
DL-650, pretty much the same though I liked the engine a little more also on the 2012 I rode the wind blast was not existent which was good. I hated the suspension on it. I could see the road surface was rough, textured and full of cracks. Riding the same roads on my Multistrada and it told me those things. On the Wee? Couldn't tell the difference. It was the same squishy couch sensation on rough back roads or slabbing it.
FZ-6, it put my hands to sleep and I found I just don't like I4s.
FZ-1, see above. It's a great bike, it's not for me.
C-10, this was the first big bike I rode. I was anxious about riding bigger bikes and worried heavy weight of a big ST would be overwhelming. (I was riding a Monster as my only vehicle which had some serious inconveniences and flaws.) So my roommate and I swapped bikes for a week. I hated it. It made my hands numb, it was fat, uncomfortable and boring.. boring. She didn't agree with me about it being boring until she bought her Norge.. then rode it again after having the Norge as her daily rider for 6 months. Needless to say I had no desire to hustle a big bike like that around in traffic or in the hills so sacrificing some comfort for lighter weight became a yes for me. Now my current bike is only like 60-70lbs heavier than my monster was with a full tank of gas and it holds almost 2 gallons more.

There are still times were I think I probably should have spent less money on a less..unique and prissy bike as my only vehicle but I love my Multistrada to death. It's a great bike.. for me, though I'd have a lot more money if I'd bought something like a Wee (though that's debatable given the crap people go through to make them 'likeable') or something else that is cheaper to keep running and has less expensive parts.
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