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Old 03-09-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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ATGATT and your pillion

Yesterday, my wife and I went for a beautiful ride on The Hammer, up and over the Dragoons via Gleeson Road, ending at Pizzeria Mimosa for lunch. And canolli. You can't forget da canolli.


The Mrs. is a bit claustrophobic. I didn't know that years ago when I invited her for a ride, but soon learned. Showing up to my, what is now our, house for a ride to Kitt Peak, one of our local Sky Islands, I laid out the gear she was to use. "I thought I was going to get a tan; I have to wear all this?" Well, yes.


She dutifully donned the somewhat fitting jacket and pants, took instruction on what to do as a pillion, then was ready to pull on the full-face helmet. "Aaaaaaaaaaaaa, I can't wear this!!!!" Ok, ok, open the visor, let's try that. "Aaaaaaaaaaa, ok, ok, aaaaaaaaaa, ok, ok." That's good, breathe, breathe... Now we have to do up the D-ring. "Aaaaaaaaaaaaa."


Since that time, she has become an ATGATT convert, is a terrific pillion and a great back seat photodocumentarian. She's even named her 'stich "Shelia" and mine "Bob." That's so when we're at a restaurant we can get a table for four.


What does this backstory have to do with yesterday's ride? Glad you asked. Heading out of Tombstone over the Dragoons, Krisanne gives me the sideways thumb sign: stop at the next available opportunity.


Getting off, she says "I'm freezing." It is 62 degrees. "I'm freezing." You haven't closed all the zips around your arms and neck. "I'm freezing." Ok, your liners are in the right saddlebag.


The Hammer patiently waiting, she layers up.


Almost ready to resume the ride, I mention that she should cinch up her arm zips to keep the wind out. "Aaaaaaaaaa."


"Aaaaaaaaaa, I can't cinch anything else up. Sometimes you have to just say 'stop the insanity'."


For about the next ten miles, I'm laughing almost uncontrollably in my helmet; Bryan Adams' "Have you ever really loved a woman?" playing on the iPod.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:32 AM   #2
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My wife rarely rides with me, but she understood from the start that without proper gear there is no ride. We had fun going out to shop for gear for her. One rule I had was, it can't match mine.

My niece is still pissed at me because I won't let her on the bike dressed the way she wants. Rules is rules.
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Old 03-09-2015, 12:53 PM   #3
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My wife rarely rides with me, but she understood from the start that without proper gear there is no ride. We had fun going out to shop for gear for her. She enjoyed the shopping, but still doesn't ride.
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:26 PM   #4
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My wife resisted a little, but can be swayed by logic. It isn't so much that she is claustrophobic in the gear, but rather too hot when summer temps get above 100 degrees.

Showing her pictures of road rash on the internet is good for at least 6 months with no arguing.
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:55 PM   #5
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I realise the ATGATT police will get me for this - but they won't get my wife...

She's been my pillion for 44 years now, over half a million miles, and perfected the art of going to sleep on the boring bits 43 years ago.

We fell off once 43.5 years ago - never since.

But the point of this post is that she's never changed her get-up since those days, except for a full-face helmet after the first 4 years: leather jacket, gloves, jeans, fashion high boots superannuated from daily wear. (She doesn't need heels, as she's 6ft tall.) Has a one-piece oversuit for rain, recognises its utility, but bitches about its appearance - and she has grounds for that.

I'm not going to jeopardize 44 years of togetherness for an insistence on ATGATT - it's half a million miles of injury-free riding, anyway, so I'd have quite a hurdle on that ground alone.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:24 PM   #6
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My Fiance wanted to ride with me it is a requirement she wear full gear just like I do.

She got her own bike, wearing the same gear had a bad get off.

Simply put it saved her life (head trauma, would have been dead if wearing anything less than full gear).

Wont even consider a passenger without it.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:35 PM   #7
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ATGATT is even more important to the passenger because if they bother me too much I'll just dump them right off the back!
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:36 PM   #8
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As in the famous T-shirt: "If you can read this, the bitch fell off".
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:49 PM   #9
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I'm not ATTGATT myself. I dress for the ride, sometimes that's full gear and sometimes I cheat a little for more casual ride. When my wife rides with me we generally wear the same level of gear.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:06 PM   #10
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Going on group rides with others who are ATGATT types gave my wife the bug to go shopping and fit in. Before introducing her to the Group she didn't like wearing a properly fitted helmet, wanted to wear shorts and she thought sandals were cool.
While it gives me some comfort knowing she has the right gear on.
Her best protection is the Nut connecting the handlebars to the saddle.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:15 PM   #11
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:46 PM   #12
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They are too important to not wear the gear. No gear, no ride, no exceptions.
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Old 03-09-2015, 09:13 PM   #13
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Shelia and Bob

…our dueling 'stitches. Mr. Happy Puppet needs some gear…

Aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:03 AM   #14
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My sweetie's looking for her first jacket and helmet. At first she was OK with riding in jeans- mostly 'cause of the cost, I think, and was a bit cranky about my rule of full gear for full speed (over 35 or so). We went for an evening ride in the Oakland hills (45 degrees) and a shopping trip to Scuderia where the young lady behind the register gave a detailed account of her last get-off.

Now my sweetie wants full gear. I'm very happy with this. Nothing quit as unnerving as a knowing yer pillion ain't packed right.

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Old 03-10-2015, 01:26 AM   #15
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I'm not ATTGATT myself. I dress for the ride, sometimes that's full gear and sometimes I cheat a little for more casual ride. When my wife rides with me we generally wear the same level of gear.
same here, I dress for comfort, not safety as does my GF

I do not consider it cheating

you are cheating yourself if your gear diminishes the riding experience, some of the best riding experiences are 2up without gear, wind in your face and hair, an occasional reach around
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