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Old 01-11-2013, 05:34 PM   #8626
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maybe some leaves the locals chew for altitude sickness?
That's what the chilean rider, Prohens said in the ES..., "folhas de coca"
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:34 PM   #8627
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Sucks those videos of El Ponkins got pulled. For other youtubers, I suggest geo-blocking them to lock out France. It will stop the ASO getting at them and nullify any breach of copyright claim from F4. It's not foolproof, and it's certainly not enough to get you in the clear - but it might be enough to get them off your back.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:34 PM   #8628
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Yip, with all these engine changes and malle moto typ stuff in the works, I cant help but think of Kemals smiling face missing from this Dakar...
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:34 PM   #8629
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Yip, with all these engine changes and malle moto typ stuff in the works, I cant help but think of Kemals smiling face missing from this Dakar...
Perhaps he is still smiling and watching the dakar and us from another place...
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:34 PM   #8630
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I believe that those (coca) leaves are only legal to purchase in Bolivia, atleast that's what I was told when I was there two years ago.
They're available all over SA. I think their effect is overrated but that's just my personal experience.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:35 PM   #8631
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Dakar 2013 – Stage 7 – Update
Finally, after looked at the various options and after consulting KTM’s rally technicians, Cyril Despres has decided to do an engine swap with Polish Orlen Team rider Marek Dabrowski. To undertake such a task at the marathon bivouac with no outside assistance, no spare parts and only limited tools wasn’t an easy decision. Fortunately Cyril is a trained mechanic and was able to count on the support and help of all the other KTM factory riders, not to mention the enormous generosity of the Orlen Team.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:35 PM   #8632
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Jordi Viladoms @ JordiViladoms
Jordi seems that he has been able to solve mechanical problems and it starts moving ... som-hi Jordi!!
Shame about the overall that's now slipped away, but still, I admire the guy. Top Husky for days on end after Barreda, and with nary a month or so to get accustomed to the bike
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:36 PM   #8633
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They're available all over SA. I think their effect is overrated but that's just my personal experience.
I never chewed the leaves, I did drink the coca tea however and that seemed to help. And loooooots of water! The first night in La Paz I had to go to the toilet four times, and I didn't even drink any water during the night!
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:37 PM   #8634
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One more thought before I get back to work.

For all our joking about stadium Dakar and favoritism and the rest, the star of the motorcycle show currently has greasy hands and is working on his own rig, putting a motor in to stay in the chase tomorrow.

It is impossible to imagine that in any other top-tier form of racing. Ryan Villipoto or James Stewart putting in a motor between motos? Yeah, right, it's hard to picture them turning a suspension clicker!

My belief, and my experience, is that the Dakar adventure, while torn around the edges, remains vibrant inside, for most people, most of the time. I dislike the short stages, I abhor the favoritism, I hate the constant pushing of the rules and flexibility toward teams with $$... but I still love the race and what it brings out in people. There AND here.

+1

Lots of bashing Cyril and I think some folks over estimate how easy it is for the hero's. Sure they get an rv to camp in but...

They still ride the same demanding route, and at speed so way more physically and mentally demanding
They still eat at the same picnic tables and eat the same food
They still stand in a crowd and take their own notes at the nightly meeting (dust and heat, etc)

Aside from sleeping in an air conditioned RV, which is still in the crazy atmosphere of the bivouac with all it loud noises and total chaos all night, they dont have it much easier than the average Joe who enters. ya ya not as much stress prepping etc, but I'm certain the stress of the pressure to perform out weighs that in a big way.

The fact that Cyril is changing his own motor after 7 days of racing and then will sleep on the ground with a poncho (look forward to the photo of him tomorrow morning....I sincerely hope some magicdoesnt appear where he gets a sleeping bag or something along those lines) just like everyone else...thats some serious hard core shit

A few simple changes could really make the rally better IMHO, no more RV's in the bivouac, no more hotels or sleeping outside the bivouac. Mandatory tenting...

But for all intents and purposes I dont see why everyone whines and widges so much. The top guys are out there rocking the desert day and after day
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:37 PM   #8635
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No one beats TEAM F5!!!!

I'm guess that is what this truck is for..Kind of like support by supplied by ASO oil and other fluids it seems there

Look they have offical Dakar slippers too
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:40 PM   #8636
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I'm guess that is what this truck is for..Kind of like support by supplied by ASO oil and other fluids it seems there

I would have thought the Elf truck would have been there with lube, fluids, etc
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:41 PM   #8637
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Do we know why he is out? Looked like maybe a broken hand?
#178 JW Offringa is out

Jan Wouter is like the average trail rider who set himself the goal of doing Dakar. Somebody who posted on a dutch forum about this years ago and made his dream come true.

After 5 longs days he met his Waterloo yesterday, at the end of Stage 6.

He was running in the back of the field and after struggling through the past stages, running in the back of the field and having had a 24hr riding day he came up on the final fuel stop to find it empty.

The gastrucks had left and there was no other option for him then to join the recovery truck.

The Red Lantern has now been passed on to Luis on his KTM 150cc 2 stroke.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:43 PM   #8638
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I never chewed the leaves, I did drink the coca tea however and that seemed to help. And loooooots of water! The first night in La Paz I had to go to the toilet four times, and I didn't even drink any water during the night!
The best thing to do is acclimate naturally, I rode the Andes from Colombia to Tierre del Fuego and didn't have any problems until I flew home for the holidays from Cusco. 2 weeks at sea level in Chicago and I was fucked when I returned to Cusco. And it got worse with every day I rode b/c I was climbing as I went south. I discovered Sorojchi pills in Copacabana (13k ft) and was back to normal.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #8639
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No sooner than someone mentions Porsche on F5 and Eurosport do a retrospective on "The Porsche Years"
well, it was quintessential Dakar stuff. Ask that twat , Jackie Ickx
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #8640
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Cyril may be a mechanic but he's under some stress here to get that engine in and get it right. Combined with the altitude making life difficult I hope he has enough mental capacity to get everything connected properly so the bike makes it through. If someone other than KTM takes the podium I want it to be a straight up race, not KTM's loss from a broken gearbox.
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