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Old 01-17-2013, 07:52 AM   #14581
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Hey, be nice to us PST folks
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:52 AM   #14582
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09:49 - bike

005 - Barreda gains more seconds after 140 km

Just before the half-way point, Joan Barreda leads the bikers, having taken advantage of a starting position slightly down the order. He boasts a lead of 2'28" over Francisco Lopez, 3'47" over Juan Pedrero Garcia and 5'25" over Cyril Despres. At present, Kurt Caselli has lost 9'19" to the stage leader, having opened the road on the first portions of the special. He has been caught by the stage leaders and they are now riding together
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:52 AM   #14583
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Zip up?
If you saw that hrc film from yesterday when he got off the bike in the biv, then you'd wonder if he dumped it, and it took him that long to recover, get it up, and get going. Be my guess.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:53 AM   #14584
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Barreda is taking even more time at CP2.

2'42 to chaleco, 6'25 to despres, 10'42 to Kurt.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:53 AM   #14585
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excellent photos...thnx for link
Credit to 8340SU for the find.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:53 AM   #14586
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:54 AM   #14587
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For the life of me, I can't figure out why...
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:54 AM   #14588
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WP4!!


    • Stage
    • Overall WP4
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    • Pos.NameMakeTimeVariationPenalty
      1005BARREDA BORT (ESP)HUSQVARNA001:36:12
      00:00:00
      2007LOPEZ CONTARDO (CHL)KTM001:38:5400:02:4200:00:00
      3012PEDRERO GARCIA (ESP)KTM001:40:4800:04:3600:00:00
      4001DESPRES (FRA)KTM001:42:3700:06:2500:00:00
      5020GONÇALVES (PRT)HUSQVARNA001:44:4500:08:3300:00:00
      6029CASELLI (USA)KTM001:46:5400:10:4200:00:00
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:54 AM   #14589
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That's Helder. Or maybe an HRC thing...
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:56 AM   #14590
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Barreda passed the whole pack in that sector.

Smart? Dunno. But the video should be good on Fr4.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:56 AM   #14591
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Yep, this.

Thats my theory and until proven wrong Im sticking to it.
OK, I'll go with that assumption for a second. So yesterday was a 220 km special (or, shortened by 30kms, 190km total). Helder starts, and because there is no refueling inside the stage, it means he has to calculate fuel at DSS for the whole special. So he fills up for say 220kms, + 10% for nav error, skipping out on, what another extra 4-5 liters? Yes! I hear you say, for extra performance!

Ok, bear with me. 4-5 extra liters of fuel, on -how much does the CRF weigh?- let's assume a 150-160 kilo bike, those 4-5 extra liters are about a 3-4% weight difference to the whole package...?

I'm no Helder, but that is negligible on a rally bike I would imagine, and if not, certainly not more important than having peace of mind to finish the damn day. Helder is no dork, I'd like to think.

Unless. And this is where it might get interesting. Unless he finds the CRF very quirky / the frame geometry weird / the rear suspension bitchy / there is an innate design flaw with how the bike carries it's weight when filled to the brim, and/or how the fuel is circulated when the tanks are topped up with gas.

Just pure speculation, wild guessing and pure innuendo...
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:57 AM   #14592
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OK, I'll go with that assumption for a second. So yesterday was a 220 km special (or, shortened by 30kms, 190km total). Helder starts, and because there is no refueling inside the stage, it means he has to calculate fuel at ASS for the whole special. So he fills up for say 220kms, + 10% for nav error, skipping out on, what another extra 4-5 liters? Yes! I hear you say, for extra performance!

Ok, bear with me. 4-5 extra liters of fuel, on -how much does the CRF weigh?- let's assume a 150-160 kilo bike, those 4-5 extra liters are about a 3-4% weight difference to the whole package...?

I'm no Helder, but that is negligible on a rally bike I would imagine, and if not, certainly not more important than having peace of mind to finish the damn day. Helder is no dork, I'd like to think.

Unless. And this is where it might get interesting. Unless he finds the CRF very quirky / the frame geometry weird / the rear suspension bitchy / there is an innate design flaw with how the bike carries it's weight when filled to the brim, and/or how the fuel is circulated when the tanks are topped up with gas.

Just pure speculation, wild guessing and pure innuendo...
There you go trying to do math again...
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:58 AM   #14593
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here we go


botturi got lost, he is going west too soon, at km 155, maybe others will follow his track


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L'Italien est en train de faire route à l'Ouest, vers le Km 155 de la spéciale, un peu trop tôt par rapport aux indications du road-book. Il s'éloigne du tracé de la spéciale, mais il est également en train de faire une trace qui risque d'induire en erreur d'autres concurrents derrière lui.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:59 AM   #14594
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There you go trying to do math again...
I have misc to do my math for me!
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:59 AM   #14595
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Barreda passed the whole pack in that sector.

Smart? Dunno. But the video should be good on Fr4.

now caselli is the last one in the group
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