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Old 01-17-2013, 08:10 AM   #14716
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Pat is looking good through WP3 +09:26:35 (55) !
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:10 AM   #14717
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Just got out of a meeting and had a quick look on the timings. Showing Pyn last through WP2 has anything happened??
Something clearly slowed him today, but we have no idea what.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:11 AM   #14718
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WP6 Chalecon IN!!!

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:12 AM   #14719
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No sign of Luis at CP1 yet. Cars are already through that point.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:12 AM   #14720
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So Barreda lead the first group off track but the others realized it and turned but he was still running in the wrong direction? (all of them have lost time to Faria)

edit: and now he's flying, cut the time from 4´30 down to 2 minutes to Chaleco
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:13 AM   #14721
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know that they are only 5 outcomes at the end of the two weeks: Finish, Mechanical, Abandon, Injuries, Death.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:13 AM   #14722
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Barreda just took 2,5 minutes from lopez between wp5 and wp6
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:14 AM   #14723
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So Barreda lead the first group off track but the others realized it and turned but he was still running in the wrong direction? (all of them have lost time to Faria)

So I guess that puts Faria in the overall lead now right? 4' on Depres is enough isnt it? i cant remember.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #14724
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So I guess that puts Faria in the overall lead now right? 4' on Depres is enough isnt it? i cant remember.
nah he was about 10 mintues down
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #14725
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So I guess that puts Faria in the overall lead now right? 4' on Depres is enough isnt it? i cant remember.
no, he was + 13'16
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #14726
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No so wild guessing. I don't buy that any fuel volume issue that Helder has had, save perhaps the first, could have been due to short-filling.

We're not talking about having an extra 15L on a 660 Rallye here. As you say, the %'s are small in this case. I know these guys are pushing at the ragged edge, and will look for any advantage available, but the risk doesn't justify -- especially given the issues they've already had with the Honda.
I know that the HRC fuel issue is going for long, apologies if this has need thought before... Just to add in the speculation pool ...
I think the quote above is 100% correct... The bike had already issues with fuel before... You do not just risk for a 5 kilos. Drop the Nav tower and you gain ten ... Throw the lights and you gain another two. Make the tanks out of plastic and you will probably gain another 5 ...
The rear tanks should change the geometry of the bike as the sit higher than the other bikes, but then again they create more leverage to lift the front wheel and take weight out of the front, which would be a bonus during sand riding. May be the riders don't like the feeling so the rears do not fill up to the top. If I remember correctly the 660 had a high rear tank and it was withdrawn due to similar reports from the riders. Then KTM put the two side low ones on the 660 and then they changed them to what is similar to the ones we see today. Honda's seem that they sit too far at the rear and at the top, but then again I am pretty sure someone has done the proper statics and dynamics to solve any problems... I am convinced that either the pumps overheat where they are (close to the engine and protected by the bash guard) or there is another design flow in their hydraulic system that causes the pumps to fail from overheating. May be they are pumping air for long periods ? Just a thought. ...
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #14727
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Barreda just took 2,5 minutes from lopez between wp5 and wp6
shoulder must be okay then i guess
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #14728
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So I guess that puts Faria in the overall lead now right? 4' on Depres is enough isnt it? i cant remember.
Nope, was 13'+sth after yesterdays stage ...

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:17 AM   #14729
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Are we sure that wouldn't be a light like used in Baja. I'd want to have one on hand just in case.
Yup, absolutely positively 100% sure that it's a Sena. I happen to have a couple of those myself and one can even see the rubber flap covering the charging port on that picture. =)
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:18 AM   #14730
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Dakar

Ruben Faria is now in front, leading Francisco Lopez by 9", Frans Verhoeven by 23" and Juan Pedrero Garcia by 5'13". Alain Duclos is in fifth, 2'33" behind the stage leader and 17" ahead of Ivan Jakes. Following his navigation problems, Joan Barreda is in eighth place.
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