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Old 10-22-2013, 06:45 PM   #1
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Question Sidecar Indicators - WA Rules?

Anyone in WA know what the rules are about the left rear indicator.

Does the sidecar need one, or is it legal to use those fitted to the bike?

The Road Traffic Rules 2002 are some what unclear and no one is in to give me an answer.

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Old 10-22-2013, 07:04 PM   #2
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sidecar indicators

I recently setup an outfit here in Vic,I put LED's on it and left the left hand blinkers in place but put black tape over them because by taking out the globe the blinkers don't want to work, there are ADR's concerning how far the blinker is required to be in from the edge of the vehicle(any vehicle)on sidecars in Vic the max distance is 100mm,use common sense I think it would be foolish to rely on the bikes blinker to do the work when left hand turns are concerned,you need to give following drivers as much info as possible,cheers Nev
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #3
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:21 PM   #4
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Had him on the bat phone - however the rules are still very unclear.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:00 AM   #5
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A quick look at the ural site shows outfits fitted with full tail light complement on the chair mudguard. That's NSW but I expect the ADR would be nation wide.
Also take notice of the minimum distances between lights and from the outer edge of the vehicle profile as viewed from the rear. Your answer may be in those measurements.
I build trailers and stating the obvious in the ADR's would be too simple, they like ambiguity.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:22 AM   #6
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A quick look at the ural site shows outfits fitted with full tail light complement on the chair mudguard. That's NSW but I expect the ADR would be nation wide.
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You'd think so but....
I talked to Bully today and an outfit is considered a motorcycle with an attachment and the normal ADR rules don't apply. He also said it was a bit convoluted which given gubment is involved is hardly a surprise.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:38 AM   #7
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A quick look at the ural site shows outfits fitted with full tail light complement on the chair mudguard. That's NSW but I expect the ADR would be nation wide.
Also take notice of the minimum distances between lights and from the outer edge of the vehicle profile as viewed from the rear. Your answer may be in those measurements.
I build trailers and stating the obvious in the ADR's would be too simple, they like ambiguity.
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You'd think so but....
I talked to Bully today and an outfit is considered a motorcycle with an attachment and the normal ADR rules don't apply. He also said it was a bit convoluted which given gubment is involved is hardly a surprise.


A Ural is manufactured as a Sidecar, so it is ADR'd as such. any other bike that YOU attach a sidecar to, simply becomes a bike with an attachment, in SA and some of the other Eastern states this is easily done with no paperwork, in WA you need to get it permitted to have an attachment on the bike, this is where it becomes vague as each inspection station interprets the rules differently.

when I registered my PD outfit I was given a permit ( which you have to carry at all times ), I was also told that you do not need indicators on the outfit as "other motorists see the bike first ( HAHA ) " however you would still need a clearance light for night, quite frankly I reckon that an indicator/ tail/stop light setup similar to a trailer is a good thing from the rear and a clearance/indicator on the front, just to make sure.

My new GSX outfit has this setup on it as well as an LED front left indicator on the bike, in case the sidecar indicator is not visible from the front on an angle, similar to a car having one on the side of the guard. personally I would run a set up on the chair, you won't be knocked back for having one, just told it's not necessary, with my missus in the sidecar I'd like to be sure that it can be seen.






let me know how you go Kev.
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