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Old 01-07-2013, 04:02 PM   #1
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Which is better off-road - KLR or 990Adventure?

(KLR 650, BTW) Seriously, which is better on rutted out, rough forest roads and double-track? Which is better on the road? Would appreciate any input.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:41 PM   #2
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Depends if the KLR has had the doohickey mod done or not.

These two bikes are so similar in every other way it would have to come down
to the doohickey. No seriously.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:11 PM   #3
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:18 PM   #4
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I had a 2010 KLR 650 bought new. I sold it after a season to buy a 2009 KTM 990. I enjoyed the KLR, but Love the 990! It does everything better, except sip fuel. Off road it is even further above the KLR. You really do get what you pay for.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:20 PM   #5
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Depends if the KLR has had the doohickey mod done or not.

These two bikes are so similar in every other way it would have to come down
to the doohickey. No seriously.






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Old 01-07-2013, 06:02 PM   #6
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I'll agree with the input so far. I've ridden both and own a KLR650. The KLR is a great bike and you'd be hard pressed to find anything better for the price. The KTM is much more refined across the board but costs more.
  • The KLR will leave you with a lot more cash for farkles and motels.
  • The KTM will handle the high speeds both on and off road better.
  • The KLR is very inexpensive to maintain and has decades of aftermarket suportting it.
  • The KTM can leave you in the cold with the nearest dealer a full state away.
  • I believe the KTM is lighter so picking it up multiple times in a sand filled day will be easier on your back.
  • The KTM comes in cooler looking colors.

Hope this helps!
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:26 PM   #7
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Is the KTM really worth the price? I really like it, but dang its expensive.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:37 PM   #8
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For me it was no contest. I found the KLR to be underpowered on the road and way under suspended off the road - but that is indicative of how I ride and how big I am (6'3, 235 lb w/gear). If you are a smaller or more sedate rider, then it might be a closer call.

Without a doubt the KTM is more expensive to buy, maintain and operate than a KLR. For me the cost difference is well worth it as it feels and acts much more like a dirt bike than the KLR.

As far as being easier to pick up from dirt nap than a KLR, I would find that hard to believe. That is its biggest issue for me, when it lies on the ground it is to quote a friend of mine " a 500 pound 2X4".
Which is why I know also have a 500 EXC for the more challenging offroad material
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:16 PM   #9
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I believe the KTM is lighter so picking it up multiple times in a sand filled day will be easier on your back.
All is true except the above

And the real answer is....the 950se is what you want.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:27 PM   #10
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...And the real answer is....the 950se is what you want.

Really? My SE spent a buttload of time on my trailer (broken).

So, if a 990 Adventure is similar, and the truck pulling the trailer is a 4X4, then I would say that the 990 could be just as capable (offroad) as a KLR...




...as long as the trailer could squeeze through the trail.

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Old 01-07-2013, 09:12 PM   #11
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Buy a late model KLR,do the following upgrades: Gold Valves & springs in the forks, Progressive shock & spring, Eagle Mike forkbrace, Em's Doohickey upgrade, 685 top end kit (also from EM's), subframe bolt upgrade kit, Bars, Grips& seat of your choice and the KLR would run much closer to the KTM off road when the almost Double horsepower is not a factor.
Extended hi speed (meaning over 8o indicated) is not That bad on a properly sorted KLR... I put over 35,000 miles in a year on mine on mostly I-roads often at over 85 (gps) on SEVERAL trips of 325~600 miles at a time in that year with nothing more than standard maintnance & using a bit of oil.
BUT the money you would save even with all of the "Upgrades" to the KLR will leave you with THOUSANDS of dollers in the bank to buy gas, farkels & trip money vs. the KTM Buy in & maintenance difference..
That being said; I sold the KLR after 26 months of that kind of usage & replaced it with a V Strom 1000, Much better suited to my needs / usage.
My local dealer is a KTM / Kawasaki / Suzuki / Polaris / Dealer. The owner rides a 300XC off road & a Z 1000 on road.I had asked him about why not a 990 KTM dualsport and he shot me a look and said 'I look That crazy?' not more than 100 miles off unless I had a chase truck!
That told me what I needed to know.....
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:17 PM   #12
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Seriously?

Comparing a Kawasaki KLR to a KTM 990 Adventure/ SE is like comparing a Volkswagen Beetle to a Porche 911 Turbo, the cost to maintain though, are just about similar...
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:57 PM   #13
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Buy a late model KLR,do the following upgrades: Gold Valves & springs in the forks, Progressive shock & spring, Eagle Mike forkbrace, Em's Doohickey upgrade, 685 top end kit (also from EM's), subframe bolt upgrade kit, Bars, Grips& seat of your choice and the KLR would run much closer to the KTM off road when the almost Double horsepower is not a factor.
Extended hi speed (meaning over 8o indicated) is not That bad on a properly sorted KLR... I put over 35,000 miles in a year on mine on mostly I-roads often at over 85 (gps) on SEVERAL trips of 325~600 miles at a time in that year with nothing more than standard maintnance & using a bit of oil.
BUT the money you would save even with all of the "Upgrades" to the KLR will leave you with THOUSANDS of dollers in the bank to buy gas, farkels & trip money vs. the KTM Buy in & maintenance difference..
That being said; I sold the KLR after 26 months of that kind of usage & replaced it with a V Strom 1000, Much better suited to my needs / usage.
My local dealer is a KTM / Kawasaki / Suzuki / Polaris / Dealer. The owner rides a 300XC off road & a Z 1000 on road.I had asked him about why not a 990 KTM dualsport and he shot me a look and said 'I look That crazy?' not more than 100 miles off unless I had a chase truck!
That told me what I needed to know.....
All that and you will still have a fat, slow, overweight, underpowered pig!
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:59 PM   #14
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All that and you will still have a fat, slow, overweight, underpowered pig!
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:02 PM   #15
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(KLR 650, BTW) Seriously, which is better on rutted out, rough forest roads and double-track? Which is better on the road? Would appreciate any input.
Or...for a bit less money than the KTM you could look at a Triumph Tiger 800XC or BMW F800GS. Both are offroad capable but have very different feels to them.
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