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Old 01-09-2013, 09:58 AM   #16
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if powder-coating goes wrong , is it nearly impossible to Remove !

have been doing a lot of research into this area , and it looks like that the most important area is the primary coat , and if you use a Chemical Etch primer 2 coats you are off to the best start possible . and in the UK even , Hammerite Smooth will give you a durable finish , that is re touchable ?

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ps What POR 15 product do you refer to , I and about to use POR 15 to Seal a Steel petrol Tank ?
Hey chap - How's that HP doing?

I'm actually expecting to pay someone else to do it... I can only hope that they know the importance of prep. I can say with some certainty they'd do a better job than me! But even so, the uncertainty does make me think I should go with painting.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:38 AM   #17
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"Powder coating" is not always the best coating. There are many different formulations of powder types and powder hybrids. All have specific needs and durability. Proper cleaning and chemical pre-treatment are essential for good adhesion and corrosion control. Adequate curing is also essential. Few coaters have the necessary controls to have all their process ducks in a row to ensure a quality job! Touch -up can be difficult as you are unlikely to have a color or material etc match. I run our companies 20,000 sq ft powder coating facility.

Laquer based coatings are a well known process replicated anywhere. They too are all about proper preparation and application, but don't require the capital equipment like powder to do it properly.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:49 AM   #18
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Hi Mav

still have the HP2 but have been quiet since i had a Valve Replaced ..... in me not the bike, playing with classics to keep me intrested till i can do the HP some justice,

Always look in at the HP section on ukgsers and see you active ,

re paint i have the same delimenia as yourself what route to take , the big problem i have with powder is removing it if things go wrong

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Old 01-09-2013, 08:57 PM   #19
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if powder-coating goes wrong , is it nearly impossible to Remove !
That is simply not true, any powder coater can dip it and it slides right off.

My vote is for powder.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #20
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still have the HP2 but have been quiet since i had a Valve Replaced ..... in me not the bike, playing with classics to keep me intrested till i can do the HP some justice,

Always look in at the HP section on ukgsers and see you active ,

re paint i have the same delimenia as yourself what route to take , the big problem i have with powder is removing it if things go wrong

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Sorry to hear about the surgery but it sounds like you're making a good recovery and will be back on the HP soon!
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:27 AM   #21
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Not to many powder coaters in my neck of the Woods...
do you happen to KNOW what they dip it into . have tried all manner of removers inc Starstrip , nitromors . spray on Gasket removers etc ?



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That is simply not true, any powder coater can dip it and it slides right off.

My vote is for powder.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:03 AM   #22
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Not to many powder coaters in my neck of the Woods...
do you happen to KNOW what they dip it into . have tried all manner of removers inc Starstrip , nitromors . spray on Gasket removers etc ?
My powdercoater says aircraft paint stripper. Good stuff and about the only stripper that will take the BMW silver paint off. Mind you we haven't tried it on powder just yet. Couple more weeks and we will test.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:22 AM   #23
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My powdercoater says aircraft paint stripper. Good stuff and about the only stripper that will take the BMW silver paint off. Mind you we haven't tried it on powder just yet. Couple more weeks and we will test.
Try and get a name for me and I would like to try it
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:44 AM   #24
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I used to have my stuff powder-coated. When it comes to frame, sub-frame and all hard to get to places for cleaning, I use POR 15 now. Never seen a chip or scratch yet.
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if powder-coating goes wrong , is it nearly impossible to Remove !

have been doing a lot of research into this area , and it looks like that the most important area is the primary coat , and if you use a Chemical Etch primer 2 coats you are off to the best start possible . and in the UK even , Hammerite Smooth will give you a durable finish , that is re touchable ?

Phil Gunn

ps What POR 15 product do you refer to , I and about to use POR 15 to Seal a Steel petrol Tank ?
POR 15 has an array of different products for pretty much any application. I have used the tank sealant, engine and caliper paint and their frame products. All work like a charm.
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I am contemplating the same thing. I have a rusty frame and thought PC would be the way to go. As for Por-15, I understand it does not like UV rays and turns cloudy if exposed overtime to sunlight. Don't know if it's true though.
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Try and get a name for me and I would like to try it
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I will.....may not be a product available overseas under that specific brand name. Couple weeks anyway I'll be back there, I bought different powders and some is high heat, if that doesn't work I'll really need some stripper.Hum....and I was using the product a couple weeks back on BMW silver but no time to test on powder. I did not even pay attention to the brand. I know it is safe for aluminium and magnesium. But not that we want to powdercoat magnesium, that's opening a whole big can of worms that.

May jog someone memory....it is jelly like and blueish, came in a gallon with red & blue markings from somewhere in the USAs.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:44 AM   #28
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I have found this site for POR15 with some info on the products
have a look here

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayAgrou...26+Anti%2DRust

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Old 01-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #29
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Not to many powder coaters in my neck of the Woods...
do you happen to KNOW what they dip it into . have tried all manner of removers inc Starstrip , nitromors . spray on Gasket removers etc ?

I'm a powder coater. I use B17 stripper from Benco Sales. I buy it by the 55 gallon drum. It's Methylene Chloride and is infinitely reusable as long as you don't leave the lid off and let it evaporate.

It's pretty simple really. Just tie a chain or wire to the part and dunk it in the tank for 5 minutes. When you pull it out, all the powdercoat will be gone.
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