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Old 05-15-2013, 12:21 AM   #46
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... "It is everything I loved about the Honda Ruckus, plus everything I would have changed about the Honda Ruckus" ... read all about it here
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:03 AM   #47
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There's a youtube video here, with a (Tai?) review, they show 104kph or like 64mph. Not bad! If you drop a tooth or two it probably could do 65 fairly reliably at the expense of acceleration. I'm psyched!

http://www.gromforum.com/index.php?topic=7.0
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:28 AM   #48
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225 pounds. Weighs less than I do. Not my cup of tea, but at $3k I can see these selling real well.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:02 AM   #49
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There's already a bunch of aftermarket stuff. I can only imagine how ruckus-y it will get.

http://www.gromforum.com/index.php?topic=8.0
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:08 AM   #50
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Like. Want. But I'm curious .... is this a bored-out (and/or stroked) MiniTrail engine or an all-new design? Pushrod or OHC? 40 years ago a CB or CL125 was a real motorcycle.

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The engine comes from the Honda Wave 125, which is kind of a modern Supercub/Passport step-through big-wheel scooter
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:48 AM   #51
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The engine comes from the Honda Wave 125, which is kind of a modern Supercub/Passport step-through big-wheel scooter
Cool looking little bike.

Do they have any similar engines from other platforms, but more in the 250cc class?

I know, I know, bigger isn't always better... and I really don't want to start a debate about that subject. Just curious if there could be a chance of a larger displacement version at some future time, provided this one sells well. I just think that for me and how I could envision using a bike like this, that a 250cc version would work really well. And, if they already have the engine available I'd think that it could be more of a possibility at some point.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:26 AM   #52
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Big bore kits are already available:
http://www.yuminashi.com/-msx125-cylinder-kits/

The owner of http://www.firepowerminis.net/ is currently building two of these to 222 and 229cc respectively. His motors are from Innova Scooters (the scooter mentioned above) in Thailand, but, since this has basically the same motor, his work would apply.

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Cool looking little bike.

Do they have any similar engines from other platforms, but more in the 250cc class?

I know, I know, bigger isn't always better... and I really don't want to start a debate about that subject. Just curious if there could be a chance of a larger displacement version at some future time, provided this one sells well. I just think that for me and how I could envision using a bike like this, that a 250cc version would work really well. And, if they already have the engine available I'd think that it could be more of a possibility at some point.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:35 AM   #53
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It is the motor from Innova scooters. It is much evolved from the Mini Trail, with ball bearings throughout, and very stout construction. The motor weighs like 70 lbs (vs. like 40 for a mini trail motor, or Chinese 125 clone). There are big bore kits to 200cc available, and guys are building them up to almost 230cc.

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Like. Want. But I'm curious .... is this a bored-out (and/or stroked) MiniTrail engine or an all-new design? Pushrod or OHC? 40 years ago a CB or CL125 was a real motorcycle.

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Old 05-15-2013, 08:39 AM   #54
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Can someone clarify street use of this bike in the US? Obviously it's fine for typical street use; but what are the laws regarding use on highways? Highways, meaning two lane 55-mph US/State Highways here in the central US?

Thanks!
It is NOT a highway bike. It is an Urban Assault Vehicle. Because of its small size and light weight, it'll be a great RV bike or Campus transportation, just the Trail 70 and Trail 90 of 30-40 years ago. In fact, those bikes are still popular in those roles today, so I can see the Grom selling well for those uses, as well as a fun small hooligan bike for the 16-25 crowd.

I'm 45 and I WANT one!
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #55
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It's too bad you guys (the US) never got the CBR125R's

Mine will do an honest 70 miles per hour, gets 90+ US mpg, weighs 250 lbs wet, can do two finger flip over stoppies, and is utterly, utterly bulletproof to run and maintain.

It has EFI, cat converter (well mine doesn't anymore, haha) O2 sensor, 11,000 rpm redline, gear driven counterbalancer, and is smooth as silk. I can go well over 200 miles on it's 10 litre tank.

I wouldn't use it as my go to choice for a lengthy highway tour (but lots actually do, see: Bob Munden, Iron Butt record holder rider) but have done my fair share of several hundred mile highway trips on it, no problem. (hills do suck though, I admit lol)

I have had it for 6 years now (2007 model) and it's been one of my all time favourite bikes I've ever had the pleasure of owning.

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Old 05-15-2013, 11:57 AM   #56
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Just put down a deposit at my Friendly Local Honda Dealer. I'm 1st on the list.

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Old 05-15-2013, 12:54 PM   #57
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Just put down a deposit at my Friendly Local Honda Dealer. I'm 1st on the list.



Nice! I'll have to call up and see if I can do the same. I didn't realize you could already. I suppose a dealer will never turn cash away :)






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Old 05-15-2013, 12:59 PM   #58
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Nice! I'll have to call up and see if I can do the same. I didn't realize you could already. I suppose a dealer will never turn cash away :)
My dealer said their distributor called yesterday -- Dealer ordered a dozen.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:19 PM   #59
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This looks like a stupid fun town bike. I think I know where my tax rebate is going next year.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:23 PM   #60
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Big bore kits are already available:
http://www.yuminashi.com/-msx125-cylinder-kits/

The owner of http://www.firepowerminis.net/ is currently building two of these to 222 and 229cc respectively. His motors are from Innova Scooters (the scooter mentioned above) in Thailand, but, since this has basically the same motor, his work would apply.
Oh, I had no doubt that if these things sell well enough that the aftermarket would respond. Didn't think about that already taking place with the engine since it's from another model.

I guess what I was just wondering though, is if Honda already had a factory built engine similar but in a larger displacement. I'm not up on the scooter world at all and just have no idea what powerplants are already in production. While a 125 could be cool for the applications already mentioned, I think that a similar style bike could be really cool for shorter riders and as a beginner bike, and be a lot of fun as a toy if it had a little more oomph...
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