Golf GTI or Volvo C30 or SportWagen TDI or...

[JNRobert]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

Oh and:

Now, if they'd just bring the wagon here

[NikonsAndVStroms]

Originally Posted by JNRobert

Now, if they'd just bring the wagon here

Completely different car, though a wagon of our B7 would be great. Hell I could move in a single trip with that beast.

[green hell]

Originally Posted by JNRobert

Now, if they'd just bring the wagon here

i could get excited about that.

[falconati]

I guess I'm not a VW guy if that means getting worked up over a vehicle that looks like a minivan.

[green hell]

Originally Posted by falconati

I guess I'm not a VW guy if that means getting worked up over a vehicle that looks like a minivan.

ouch.

i'm not a vw guy by any means, but the wagon is much better looking than the sedan, which just screams "CAMRY!"

[NikonsAndVStroms]

Originally Posted by green hell

ouch.

i'm not a vw guy by any means, but the wagon is much better looking than the sedan, which just screams "CAMRY!"

[green hell]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

we've already discussed this.

i'm a wagon guy.

glad you love your passamry.

[NikonsAndVStroms]

Originally Posted by green hell

we've already discussed this.

i'm a wagon guy.

glad you love your passamry.

No worries, and this last weekend it handled a mountain pass a lot better than a Camry

[green hell]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

No worries, and this last weekend it handled a mountain pass a lot better than a Camry

back to this thread, if i was in the market for an ass-dragger, i'd be looking at a focus hatch.

[jdiaz]

Originally Posted by JNRobert

Now, if they'd just bring the wagon here

Looks the same as my B6 from the side. The Euro B7 Passat was *very* lightly redone since the US-spec Jetta and Passat took so much money to design and launch.

[Gummee!]

Originally Posted by green hell

ouch.

i'm not a vw guy by any means, but the wagon is much better looking than the sedan, which just screams "Taurus!"

Fixt for my opinion.

I haven't owned a VW newer than the 88 I drove after I graduated college. Bought it with 15Xk miles and sold it a few years later with ~170k mi on it.

If they made a hatchback that size these days, I'd already be driving it. I could fit 3 of my bicycles upright in the hatch with only the front wheels off.

For kicks, I went shopping for cars last year. Took the bike 'cause its important to me to be able to carry it around. Closest thing I could find that almost fit it was the Suzuki SX4. Everyeffingthing else up to the Ford Edge had roofs too low. IIRC I even tried the Explorer (the new one) and it didn't fit in that either.

Since I can fit the bicycle inside the MB I'm driving, its paid off, & gets OK mileage, its gonna take something impressive to get me out of it.

M

[A-Bone]

Originally Posted by Gummee!

IIRC I even tried the Explorer (the new one) and it didn't fit in that either.


M

Funny thing is that if you put the back seats down, the Honda Fit has more storage room than the new Explorer which doesn't have folding rear seats...

http://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/sp...ns/capacities/

http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/spe...group=interior

[Gummee!]

Originally Posted by A-Bone

Funny thing is that if you put the back seats down, the Honda Fit has more storage room than the new Explorer which doesn't have folding rear seats...

http://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/sp...ns/capacities/

http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/spe...group=interior

I drive past a Ford dealer a few times/week. Getting to a Honda dealer means going out of my way.

...and I liked the look of the new Focus...

M

[JoeDuck]

Originally Posted by Ko

Sadly, the quirky Element will, most likely, get totalled by insurance.

Now we're looking at options for a car for my wife. She wants a manual if possible, something smaller with better fuel mileage. After all, we have the van for hauling stuff.

Requirements:

- manual if possible - if right car comes along and it's AT, then is going to be automatic
- different- some personality required
- better fuel mileage than the Element given that is going to be a daily driver (future commute is only 10km). Now if we could get an Element with a diesel engine...

Price:
- TBD
- looking at used cars with less than 40k km

Ok, the TDI is my choice, I hope that if she gets to test drive one will like it.
The Volvo C30 is her choice, based on looks, never drove one. Looking at '09-'12 models.
The GTI is something we both like. Looking at '10-'12 models.
Also thought of a Fit, but she is not sure she likes it.
She likes the Soul as well, they're like a mini Element, but gas mileage is not great in those, and the interior is not on par with the first 3 models.

Any cons to these models?

Don't know much about the Volvo C30, internet searches seem to be favourable.
Had many diesels in the past, although I am not familiar with the current 2.0 TDI.

Is there a car that we missed?

thanks,
Ko

I just bough a '13 GTI. While it has both MT and AT, the AT was easier to find and in theory gets better mileage. One downside is that its mileage (21/31 better than my last car) requires premium fuel (or at least thats what the owners manual wants). Its been fun in the 500 miles I've had it. The downside? They seem to have removed the disable the ATA option so everytime you lock the car (with finger or remote) the horn goes off. However the dealer will for only $80 disable a feature that the manual says I should be able to switch off on my own.

[jdiaz]

Originally Posted by JoeDuck

The downside? They seem to have removed the disable the ATA option so everytime you lock the car (with finger or remote) the horn goes off. However the dealer will for only $80 disable a feature that the manual says I should be able to switch off on my own.

Hmm, I need to check the ATA settings on my car to see if that is possible. I thought vag-com was required.