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Old 11-30-2013, 04:47 AM   #61
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Anybody got an opinion on the 2013 CRV?
My boss has one, I've driven it a little.

Typical Honda. Power was good. His has a back-up camera so the weird styling (rear pillars) doesn't affect rearward visibility too much.

Interior is okay (Honda fit & finish) but the dash is a little busy.

Handling, again typical Honda.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:15 AM   #62
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Anybody got an opinion on the 2013 CRV?

I sell them and I'd say that 2 years into this generation and they seem pretty bulletproof. I have yet to see one in for any major repairs.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:41 AM   #63
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Thanks for the replies. I'm looking for bullet proof basic transport - 2 wheel drive four cylinder - no bells and whistles.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:55 AM   #64
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One thing I know - it was not totally redesigned. That's just marketing spew.
I'm not sure what the technical definition of a total redesign is, but this Forester is substantially different from its predecessor:

New automatic and manual transmissions going from a 4-speed auto and a 5-speed manual to a CVT auto and a 6-speed manual.

New engines in the turbo models.

The windshield was moved forward 8 inches, creating more front and rear leg room in the cabin. This also shortened the engine compartment.

The dash is completely different, the passenger seat is higher, electric power steering is new, etc.

So anyway, it was a pretty thorough makeover.
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Old 11-30-2013, 04:27 PM   #65
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My sister had a 2005ish CRV that was a lemon, mainly suspension issues.
I have a 2001 Forester that has been flawless except for the rear window sill rust which seems to plague that body style. I will definable look at Subaru when it's time for replacement.
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Old 11-30-2013, 04:52 PM   #66
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I'm not sure what the technical definition of a total redesign is, but this Forester is substantially different from its predecessor:

New automatic and manual transmissions going from a 4-speed auto and a 5-speed manual to a CVT auto and a 6-speed manual.

New engines in the turbo models.

The windshield was moved forward 8 inches, creating more front and rear leg room in the cabin. This also shortened the engine compartment.

The dash is completely different, the passenger seat is higher, electric power steering is new, etc.

So anyway, it was a pretty thorough makeover.
Fair enough - I bet it holds up better than my 2000 Forester 5-sp. The added legroom, especially, sounds good, though I expect it all comes at expense of taller and bigger.

How soon before Subaru brings their diesel boxer over?
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:25 AM   #67
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How soon before Subaru brings their diesel boxer over?[/QUOTE]

I agree. I'm waiting for the 2015 Forester, thinking the diesel might enter the U.S.

Being the original poster, let me say, I'm now about 97% sure that my choice will be a 2014 or 2015 Forester, but will not make the final decision until details of the 2015 are out! I like the anticipation, which will help me make it through this Michigan Winter.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:22 AM   #68
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We have a 2013 CR-V.
Have not driven it in deep snow yet.
I do like the way it handles.
CR-V Powertrain explained here

The last section in the link explains the Real Time AWD.

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Old 12-08-2013, 02:37 PM   #69
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We have a 2013 CR-V.
Have not driven it in deep snow yet.
I do like the way it handles.
CR-V Powertrain explained here

The last section in the link explains the Real Time AWD.

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Thanks for the info and link. I keep thinking that the Toyota RAV4 variable intake valve timing set-up is so much simpler than the way Honda does it (Previous 2010 RAV4 owner here). I'll be looking into one of these CRV's when the time comes.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:05 AM   #70
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I like the anticipation, which will help me make it through this Michigan Winter.
i just got rid of my 2006 forester - i miss it already, but my mom needed a car she can get around in, and i'll be damned it i have ever owned another car that went better in weather than that forester. 160k miles on it when i handed the keys over to her and all it has had done is regular maintenance (which, in the interest of full disclosure meant a new timing belt at 130k, guess it was supposed to be done at 90-100k)

the only thing i like better about my replacement vehicle (2008 F350) is that i no longer feel as vulnerable to any other vehicles on the road (crew cab, long box, i'm like 60% of a fricken semi tractor )
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:01 AM   #71
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Living in the north, at the bottom of a driveway we call the "Matterhorn", if it's not a Subaru, we don't buy it. Plain and simple. I have a '04 4X4 GMC, but my wife's car is a '13 Outback! I'm thinking of trading the GMC on either a Forester or some smaller Subaru.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:28 PM   #72
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i've owned 3 over the the years. if Subaru would fix their biggest on going problem with their vehicles i'd buy another: ice packing in the wheel wells. WTF Subaru??? You guys ever live with your cars in snow country? Maybe the snow in Japan does not built up.

it amazes me how after all these years of people complaining, Subaru still has very little clearance between the body and tires. in Colorado (prime Subaru country!) we see snow, then melt, then refreeze every day. This is prime ice wheel well packing conditions. If you don't park in a heated garage expect to have ice rubbing your tires the whole winter w/ any Subaru. old times carry a hammer in their cars. sure it's great 4wd but their wheel well design sucks!

...so what did i replace my Subaru with a, 2002 CRV EX AWD...tons of wheel well room.
zero ice rubbing against the tire ever since.

also i like how i sit upright with the CRV in a normal sitting fashion. with most Subarus you sit down in with your legs outwards in a cruiser fashion. you fall into a Subbie, while you sit upright, like an ADV bike, with a CRV. the new Subbies are better but still the same. rear passenger room is much better in the CRV from what i've seen. if the forester got to the same ergos as the CRV and the same wheel well clearance, i'd consider.

i check out the new model Subarus ever year and look to see if they increased the wheel well spacing; every year the same dumb ice-packing design.

the other necessity with any winter driving, proper tires. i'd say even more important than even having 4wd/awd! i'm a fan of Toyo Observes. The use walnut shells, rubber and tread design for traction. They wear incredible when using only below 65 deg. Unlike those over rated Blizzacks, the tire compound is through 100% of the tire. Even worn down low you still are getting the traction from walnut shells and rubber compound. Blizzacks wear down 1/2 and then they are nothing but expensive all-season tires. The tire guys i've talked to in the know and who are honest all say Toyo.
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Thanks for the info and link. I keep thinking that the Toyota RAV4 variable intake valve timing set-up is so much simpler than the way Honda does it (Previous 2010 RAV4 owner here). I'll be looking into one of these CRV's when the time comes.
i have no experience driving a RAV4 but the 2.4L Honda motor is a gem.
the Vtec pulls like a much bigger motor at low rpm and then changes to a faster revving smaller motor at higher rpms. it's seamless and it's almost like you have 2 motors in there. i know the VFR guys hate vtec in their bikes, but it works in a vehicle engine. mpg is solid for what it is and cruises the highway nicely. it has plenty of power. kinda like a 650 strom motor. enough to keep to smiling, but the big engine guys will thumb their nose at it. i'm sure the v-6 rav4 motor is a screamer but at more fuel used in the real world.

best part of the Honda motor is it has a chain not a belt so no $$$ maintaining needed. change iridium plugs at 100K and that's about it. not a fan of timing belt engines and the $ the cost you to maintain when there are great motors out there w/o belts.
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Anybody got an opinion on the 2013 CRV?
when the time comes, i'll more than likely but a used current gen CRV.
love the looks and it's Honda solid. gen 3 CRV are kinda funky looking.

for now i'm happy with my paid for gen 2 w/ a 5spd and honda element wheels:
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:02 AM   #75
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when the time comes, i'll more than likely but a used current gen CRV.
love the looks and it's Honda solid. gen 3 CRV are kinda funky looking.

for now i'm happy with my paid for gen 2 w/ a 5spd and honda element wheels:
My dad has that exact car right down to the color and loves it. We had to use it once to extract my subaru from a snowbank when the "traction control" killed forward progress on my steep icy driveway. Would have made a great Honda ad!
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