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Old 01-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #181
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It is an awesome machine, no doubt. The challenge is escaping the overarching over-the-hill accountant/dentist/___-retiree stigma that has haunted these cars ever since I can remember.

Kids just don't own corvettes -- and that's impressive considering that, on the used market, they can be had for less than a new Accord, yet will outperform most anything Japan and Germany have to offer for the $$. And further yet, Gen-Y would rather drive an imported rally car. STi, Evo, even the Focus RS. Why does the young performance-lusting segment lust only for turbocharged subcompacts, or else uber-expensive Bavarian bling?

I have a pretty diverse peer group -- adjust for those actually interested in fast cars, and for those whom could actually afford a used vette, and what you notice is that almost literally, no one, owns a vette. Lots of German and Japanese "sport" cars, yet the obvious performance superiority of the 'vette is overlooked. These same kids who drop 30+k on a new AWD G37.. or used 350Z balk at the used C6 that would toast their Fairlady faster than a Foreman grill. Why? Because the vette just ain't cool enough.

So I can understand Chevy's desire to put some bling into their current 'Vette crop. This new one seems like the poor man's ferrari. And whoever said it's taken some styling cues from the current-gen Camaro is right on -- the Camaro has broken though that GenY barrier -- and I hope this Vette does the same.
Yup. One 'vette that I know of at work. Countless Euro models - even a V10 R8 - nobody thinks they're sexy. When GM announced the new car, an email thread at work had 50 replies within 2 hours. Some are getting ready to put down money.

PS I think the convertible looks hot.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:43 PM   #182
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Countless Euro models - even a V10 R8 - nobody thinks they're sexy.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:45 PM   #183
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What?
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:41 PM   #184
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I bet a good used Porsche with some tweaking will out perform it for $50k less.
That's an apples to oranges comparison no matter what car you want to plug in the slot. My "good used C5 with some tweaking" will also outperform it and it's probably worth $50k less. Many tweaked used performance cars will outdo a new car in a $ Vs. performance shootout. That is not what a new car purchaser cares about. As a matter of fact, most Vete guys would say they wouldn't touch a car like mine that's had performance upgrades.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:48 PM   #185
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profile it's best looking angle, cant see the rest of it

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Old 01-21-2013, 08:06 PM   #186
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:07 PM   #187
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:10 PM   #188
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:11 PM   #189
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profile it's best looking angle, cant see the rest of it

I agree; it looks better from this angle, but it is still not very attractive to me. I'll bet the rear visibility is pretty bad, too.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:11 PM   #190
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I just remembered Bob Lutz's book about GM. With that in mind, everything about the new Corvette's styling and Government Motors makes sense now.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:14 PM   #192
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I guess I forgot that the '70-'73 Camaros wore "Corvette" tail lights.
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beautiful, apt post. True about American cars and a lot of other things, I bet.
I'm thinking you'd puke in the Vette if you drove it hard
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I agree; it looks better from this angle, but it is still not very attractive to me. I'll bet the rear visibility is pretty bad, too.
Visibility sucks in the new Camaros

I sat in one at a dealership.
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It is an awesome machine, no doubt. The challenge is escaping the overarching over-the-hill accountant/dentist/___-retiree stigma that has haunted these cars ever since I can remember.

Kids just don't own corvettes -- and that's impressive considering that, on the used market, they can be had for less than a new Accord, yet will outperform most anything Japan and Germany have to offer for the $$. And further yet, Gen-Y would rather drive an imported rally car. STi, Evo, even the Focus RS. Why does the young performance-lusting segment lust only for turbocharged subcompacts, or else uber-expensive Bavarian bling?

I have a pretty diverse peer group -- adjust for those actually interested in fast cars, and for those whom could actually afford a used vette, and what you notice is that almost literally, no one, owns a vette. Lots of German and Japanese "sport" cars, yet the obvious performance superiority of the 'vette is overlooked. These same kids who drop 30+k on a new AWD G37.. or used 350Z balk at the used C6 that would toast their Fairlady faster than a Foreman grill. Why? Because the vette just ain't cool enough.

So I can understand Chevy's desire to put some bling into their current 'Vette crop. This new one seems like the poor man's ferrari. And whoever said it's taken some styling cues from the current-gen Camaro is right on -- the Camaro has broken though that GenY barrier -- and I hope this Vette does the same.
Perceived quality.

That C6 interior is horrid. The C5 worse
Panel gaps.
Etc.
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