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Old 08-05-2013, 09:47 AM   #1
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Question Question for the 4x4 van nuts

Hello nuts,

I'm looking at buying a 1986 Ford E250 Pathfinder converted 4x4 van. I'm hoping you guys can help with information about towing capacity. The engine is a 351W with a C6 3-speed tranny and 14 bolt rear. I'm not sure of the gearing, but I'd like to know if anybody has a rough estimate of the towing capacity assuming the gears are a min. of 3.54. I'll be pulling a 6,000lb camper that's not so aerodynamic. I've searched the innerwebs and can't find any info. The 351W looks to be pretty stout, and i believe it's been upgraded to a Holley 4 bbl carb. Terrain can get pretty steep here in western NC.

Help?!

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Old 08-05-2013, 10:25 AM   #2
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I would just look up the towing specifications for a stock E250 and subtract a few hundred pounds for the extra running gear. That is generally what you see when comparing stock F series trucks. The 4x4 is usually a few hundred pounds less.

As for the Pathfinder, drive it before you buy it. Seriously. I don't mean to be a downer since it is such a cool idea. But the ones I used at work (not sure which conversions) had the roughest ride ever and they tended to have steering wheel death wobble.

Maybe you can live with the former but the latter would concern me for towing a heavy trailer. So you might want to pay close attention to the steering when you test drive and inspect it.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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I would just look up the towing specifications for a stock E250 and subtract a few hundred pounds for the extra running gear. That is generally what you see when comparing stock F series trucks. The 4x4 is usually a few hundred pounds less.

As for the Pathfinder, drive it before you buy it. Seriously. I don't mean to be a downer since it is such a cool idea. But the ones I used at work (not sure which conversions) had the roughest ride ever and they tended to have steering wheel death wobble.

Maybe you can live with the former but the latter would concern me for towing a heavy trailer. So you might want to pay close attention to the steering when you test drive and inspect it.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:43 PM   #4
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I would just look up the towing specifications for a stock E250 and subtract a few hundred pounds for the extra running gear. That is generally what you see when comparing stock F series trucks. The 4x4 is usually a few hundred pounds less.

As for the Pathfinder, drive it before you buy it. Seriously. I don't mean to be a downer since it is such a cool idea. But the ones I used at work (not sure which conversions) had the roughest ride ever and they tended to have steering wheel death wobble.

Maybe you can live with the former but the latter would concern me for towing a heavy trailer. So you might want to pay close attention to the steering when you test drive and inspect it.
If the components aren't worn out or mismatched (inadequate control arm length for example), the only thing that will cause death wobble is A-L-I-G-N-M-E-N-T. I doubt anything is mismatched if it's a Pathfinder. Finding the worn component can sometimes be challenging though
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:34 PM   #5
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It seemed more a geometry and hardware issue to me because it was exactly like my Cherokee. Those are prone to it when the steering components get some wear even when the alignment is right. Tracking down which component is at fault can be challenging. On my Cherokee it was track arm wear. That is why I suggested a close look at the steering on inspection.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:34 PM   #6
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If the components aren't worn out or mismatched (inadequate control arm length for example), the only thing that will cause death wobble is A-L-I-G-N-M-E-N-T. I doubt anything is mismatched if it's a Pathfinder. Finding the worn component can sometimes be challenging though
A bent wheel, wheel balance, a tear in the space time continuum, butterfly farts, and stiff u-joints can all cause death wobble.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:05 AM   #7
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If it was lifted, I'd put my money on insufficient caster. A decent alignment shop should be able to check and provide the current specs. It's likely that some parts will be needed to correct the caster, if that's the issue, but that's not a big deal because parts for lifted Fords abound.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:03 AM   #8
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FWIW, I looked up the rating for my 92 2WD E250 with the 351W a while back, I believe it was ~5500 lbs, so that might be a bit light for a 6k lb trailer.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:19 AM   #9
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It wouldn't hurt to contact Chris at UJOR. He knows everything about 4x4 vans. http://www.ujointoffroad.com/
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:58 AM   #10
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I think the Pathfinder was the best of the conversions to 4x4. I remember they were real popular here in New MExico since we had not only a big Van population, but a big 4x4 population. I always wanted a 4x4 van and never got one but have had many 4x4 trucks. People are correct, it will be the same as a 4x4 ford truck of the same vintage since it is the same chassis as an F250. A buddy of mine recently got a Chevy version done by Pathfinder as well I think. It is bitchin! And also on a 3/4 ton chassis. He put potent 400 small block in it.
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