ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Old's Cool > 2 smokers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-18-2014, 07:59 AM   #1
toyotajeep OP
n00b
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Oddometer: 8
1985 CR 500 Honda Questions

Hello,

I am looking for a bike to rip around the fireroads around my house. I've owned quite a few 500CC 2-strokes, including an 84 CR500, and an 04 KX500. As I recall, the 85 is supposed to be one of the faster 500's from that era. Based on my memory, the 84 "felt" faster than my 04. However, the KX was nicer to ride at speed.

Question time;

I keep hearing that the 85 was the meanest of the bunch. Is that so, and if so, why? Are there any real reasons or is it just myth? Also, are there anything unique to the 85's that I should be aware of? I have heard of a failing water pump housing etc. What else is there? I don't want something I can't get parts for.

And no, I don't want a modern 450!

Thank you for your input!
toyotajeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 08:28 AM   #2
anotherguy
Beastly Adventurer
 
anotherguy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: the hills
Oddometer: 6,162
The '85/86 CR was peaky and made power by the bucketfull. Makes for a fun ride if yer up to it.

An FMF Gnarly pipe/silencer tames it w/o losing any power. It was the hit coming out of the basement that made the 85/86 CR500s such monsters and the pipe smooths out the transition.
__________________
A lie has no feet......it can't stand alone.............
Jason Newsted
anotherguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 11:25 AM   #3
Mr. Carts
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Cahuilla Mountian
Oddometer: 337
Ahh Brotherhood of the BIG BORE.

I love the smell of Blendzall in the morning.
Mr. Carts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 03:42 PM   #4
anotherguy
Beastly Adventurer
 
anotherguy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: the hills
Oddometer: 6,162
Especially when it's combined with a heavily leaded oxygenated VP fuel.
__________________
A lie has no feet......it can't stand alone.............
Jason Newsted
anotherguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 05:48 PM   #5
fast1075
Fasterizer
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Location: Flaw'da
Oddometer: 168
Laugh

Kick, KICK!, blangggg blannng Blannnnng, "snick".....Rooooooooooost, Rooooooooooooost, Rooooooooooooost!!!! Blangggg Blangggggg. Klotz Green Label.

__________________
The older I get, the faster I was.
fast1075 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 05:36 AM   #6
toyotajeep OP
n00b
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Oddometer: 8
I did find a bike and it has an aftermarket pipe on it. It needs some mild TLC but should be fine otherwise. I will post up when I know more. This weekend is scheduled for pick up of the bike.
toyotajeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 07:05 AM   #7
MotoChris521
Studly Adventurer
 
MotoChris521's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: SoCal
Oddometer: 564
Had a '85 and a '90 .
The '85 did have a monster motor . Off idle top fuel dragster. But a weak rear brake (drum) and poor suspension.
The '90 was much more refined. Smoother motor , better brakes and shock. The forks still needed work.
__________________
dreaming of moist soil
MotoChris521 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 08:16 AM   #8
toyotajeep OP
n00b
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Oddometer: 8
For me being a caveman who runs wants to roost and ride a wheelie it should work! I know myself well enough that I will have a CR graveyard in a year anyways... I do that with all of my stuff. I just need to get a start.

To put things in perspective, my current ride is a rock-reliable XT350. So this will be a change. And suspension...........what suspension.

The CR is a much better fit for my needs.

I appreciate all of your input, and it sounds like the 85 will work. I highly doubt I will work it hard enough to hurt it.

I think it will work me!
toyotajeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 11:09 AM   #9
AlpinaE24
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Location: North Phoenix
Oddometer: 541
You can always get some cheap later xr forks for it, straight bolt onto the 85 from any 400/600/650l

They can be had for dirt cheap!
__________________
1996 Husky WXC250
1995 KDX200
1985 XL600R - Sold
1994 XR650L - Sold
2000 XR650R - Plated - Sold
AlpinaE24 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 11:30 AM   #10
toyotajeep OP
n00b
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Oddometer: 8
It actually needs a new rear shock. What models will swap in with minimal effort? I'm pretty handy and have fab abilities, but I would rather drill a hole a little bigger and bolt something on.

Is there a recommended year and model of bike for a rear shock upgrade?






Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpinaE24 View Post
You can always get some cheap later xr forks for it, straight bolt onto the 85 from any 400/600/650l

They can be had for dirt cheap!
toyotajeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 02:18 PM   #11
Kyron
Oncler Inds
 
Kyron's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: NotCal Arizona
Oddometer: 223
IIRC the 85 and 86 had the most compression, they then changed the head and ign in 87.

then in 90(?) the motor got almost smooth


I had a 87 and a 95.

While the 87 sure felt faster the 95 was a lot easier to ride.

The ergo's after 92(?) are better too
__________________
there's a Seinfeld episode like this, .....right?
Kyron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 02:49 PM   #12
Tim McKittrick
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Wasilla Alaska
Oddometer: 1,704
I ice raced an '85 and my primary issue was starting it when cold. Later models had better ignition systems that I believe provided a more powerful spark at kick over speeds as well a a redesigned kickstarter, and were orders of magnitude easier to fire up. I often had to tow start mine with a 4-wheeler and use a shot of ether to make mine go when it was super cold.
Tim McKittrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 11:46 PM   #13
toyotajeep OP
n00b
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Oddometer: 8
I just got an 85 CR500 today. More info to follow.....it was a long day
toyotajeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 09:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014