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Old 07-19-2014, 09:01 AM   #1
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Has Honda lost their mind with prices?

Every thing cost more.I get it. But THAT much more? $13k for a VFR? 8.5 for a CBR650f?

Too bad that every one who wants a Harley has one now so they can't sell any more Metirc Cruisers so there is no subsidy for "real" motorcycles any more.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:13 AM   #2
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The VFR is a fully faired v-four, and all that complexity costs something. The Yamaha FZ-09, by comparison, is a naked inline triple. No fairing, one set of cams, smaller and lighter block, etc. You just can't build a V-4 sport tourer at that price point.

As for the CBR650F, it is the same price (roughly) as the Ninja 650R, Yamaha FZ6R, and others. So that stuff does just cost more (my 650R was 6.5k in '06). Shit, the Wee Strom with OEM luggage lists for $10k.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:17 AM   #3
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They're trying to fill the Premium Bike, Premium Price niche?
IMO they're certainly way high on the CTX1300, VFR1200, Valkyrie, and F6B.
Maybe after they gather dust for a while dealers will discount.

BTW, the VFR is actually $13,499.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:19 AM   #4
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I was just thinking about this very subject this morning.



It's almost like the whole financial crisis thing never happened... the banks have plenty of money to loan, and everybody's gainfully employed with money to spend on new bikes.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:24 AM   #5
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$18,230 for an ST1300. That's insulting. Not a single improvement since the bike debuted more than 10 years ago and all they've done it increase the price.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:26 AM   #6
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Wake up guys! It's 2014. Prices went up.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:36 AM   #7
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In 2000, I paid $9,500 for my VFR which roughly equates to $13,124 in 2014 dollars. Although these numbers don't directly correlate*, it appears that Honda's Interceptor price is in line with inflation.

If you want to get chapped about prices, I paid $1.50/gallon for gas in May, 2000, which roughly equates to $2.06 in 2014 dollars. Know anyplace selling gas for $2/gallon?

*Translation: I'm not an economist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:52 AM   #8
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You gents across the pond are fortunate - you should check out what we in Britain pay.. ST1300 list at over 14499!
The new VFR800 is 10499
New Goldwing is about 24000..
I'm sure if those prices were coverted into US Dollars they'd be far more than what Honda USA charge.
And don't even get me started on Harley prices in the UK.
Some European countries are even more expensive when it comes to bikes...
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:57 AM   #9
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You gents across the pond are fortunate
Why am I reminded of the Four Yorkshiremen sketch?
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:18 AM   #10
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You gents across the pond are fortunate -...
And don't even get me started on Harley prices in the UK.
Some European countries are even more expensive when it comes to bikes...
See? That's why we revolted +200 years ago. You won't let us whine in peace
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:45 AM   #11
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Every thing cost more.I get it. But THAT much more? $13k for a VFR? 8.5 for a CBR650f?

Too bad that every one who wants a Harley has one now so they can't sell any more Metirc Cruisers so there is no subsidy for "real" motorcycles any more.

13K seems to be about right when you look at the other bikes in that Price range

-Griso
-Monster 1200
-Z1000 & Ninja 1000 (Are all Sub 13K but above 8.5K)
-Same goes for the entire ZX6-R lineup
-FZ1 down to the FZ-07 is near 13K

And the same goes for the 8.5K Range for the 650.

Actually looking at Honda's SITE the MSRP on the VFR is 15K
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:06 AM   #12
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Wake up guys! It's 2014. Prices went up.
I don't think Yamaha got that memo.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:08 AM   #13
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Wake up guys! It's 2014. Prices went up.
Indeed. But IMO Honda prices don't compare well to the competition. A couple examples:
A base F6B is $20K, a Victory Cross Country is $19K and comes with cruise control and ABS.
A base Valkyrie is $18K, a Triumph Rocket III Roadster is $15K with ABS. A Ducati Diavel is kinda sorta in the same muscle cruiser category and for the same $18K you get ABS, TC, and power modes in a bike that weighs ~300# less.
A VFR800 is $13,499, and Ninja 1000ABS is $11,999. You can get the Ninja with factory bags for less money than the VFR.
Kind of an apples and oranges comparison, but they're both 1300cc baggers - a CTX1300 is $16K, a Star 1300 Deluxe is $13,790, is only .4 seconds slower in the 1/4 and comes with built in Garmin 665 and satellite radio.
And these are Hondas with what I assume are long paid for drive trains.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:18 AM   #14
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I don't think Yamaha got that memo.
Sure they did. Check their prices again.
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The value of the Dollar vs Yen is way down
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