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Old 02-19-2013, 01:33 PM   #76
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I just read the street tracker article yesterday. With a Bonneville power plant and street triple components, I thought they got it exactly backward. Give a Bonnie derivative a power plant that inspires (ie street triple), shave some weight off it, and give it ABS, and it'd be sitting in my garage even if I had to finance it.

I love the retro concept, but retro doesn't have to mean ignoring modern power/weight expectations (of all-rounders, I'm not expecting nor desiring a sport bike).

Ducati had it figured out. Then they got rid of the sportclassic and uglied up the monster. Triumph is well positioned to come along and save the day with relatively little r&d. The parts are mostly already there.

Just my little rant.

I completely agree! I rode the gt1000 and loved the power, modern componentry and overall retro look. If the street tracker has all that, sign me up! I wonder how the new Norton 961 compares?
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:40 AM   #77
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Speaking with my dealer today and he reckons 18 months to 2 years before you will see anything.

The motor is more than likely to going to be "based" on the air cooled lump
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:54 AM   #78
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Ducati had it figured out. Then they got rid of the sportclassic and uglied up the monster.
Man, you've got THAT right.

That's the reason why I'll NEVER sell my '06 Ducati Monster S2R. Last of the classic Monsters. Single sided swingarm. Full lattice frame. In gorgeous Ducati Red and White.

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Old 02-25-2013, 12:14 PM   #79
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Ok, they arent going to make it with a 1050 Motor - so that means one of us it going to have to.

SO! easier to put a 1050 motor and fork on a Bonnie? Or easier to transform a Speed Triple INTO a Bonnie?

OR - maybe use the 800 from the Tiger?



better balanced?

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Old 02-25-2013, 12:26 PM   #80
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The Bonneville engine is not a good platform to build a performance bike out of, it's a cruiser engine.
While I admit that the Bonneville engine isn't lightweight or a high RPM screamer.. it's a parallel twin with a 180 crank... it's no more a cruiser engine than the Ninja 250's engine.

There are 90 crank versions in the Speedster, America and Scrambler.. so I'd understand if you thought that was the standard engine.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:24 AM   #81
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I reckon it will be the twin motor will be bored/stroked as appropriate and some trick suspension fitted. Maybe an ally swing arm for good measure.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:34 AM   #82
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While I admit that the Bonneville engine isn't lightweight or a high RPM screamer.. it's a parallel twin with a 180 crank... it's no more a cruiser engine than the Ninja 250's engine.

There are 90 crank versions in the Speedster, America and Scrambler.. so I'd understand if you thought that was the standard engine.
I've always read that the Bonnie was a 360 degree engine and the Scrambler/cruisers were 270 degree. I don't think I've ever heard of a parallel twin with a 90 degree firing interval.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:03 PM   #83
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A thrux with better suspension and brakes, maybe a bit more power sounds good.

If their going to go with a tripple engine, rather than a s/tripple engine in a bonnie, I'd rather an updated version of the thunderbird sport -

That's the coolest naked bike I've ever seen.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:44 AM   #84
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I've always read that the Bonnie was a 360 degree engine and the Scrambler/cruisers were 270 degree. I don't think I've ever heard of a parallel twin with a 90 degree firing interval.
That's what I meant..

In my defense.. a 270 crank and a 90 crank are essentially the same thing.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:54 AM   #85
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I like front brakes...

NFE
Can't have front brakes on a dirt tracker.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:02 AM   #86
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That's what I meant..

In my defense.. a 270 crank and a 90 crank are essentially the same thing.
That may be true. As I said I've never heard of anybody referring to a 90 degree crank in a parallel twin. I do know that a 180 degree is not the same thing as a 360 degree.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:37 AM   #87
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not my bike but its what i wish they would build. close to the pic of the bike above.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...item19d947ed7b
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #88
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That may be true. As I said I've never heard of anybody referring to a 90 degree crank in a parallel twin. I do know that a 180 degree is not the same thing as a 360 degree.
Like I said.. I screwed up.


Thanks for the correction.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #89
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that's a size 12 lady in a size 4 dress!
Tain't gonna happen (like that, anyway..). You'd have to hang a big ol' radiator off the front frame rails, which would kill the looks.
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Like I said.. I screwed up.


Thanks for the correction.
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