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Old 02-22-2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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If you could influence scooter design

What would you recommend to improve them? Are there any features you would bring back that have been abandoned over the years?
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:47 PM   #2
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I'd like to see a step-through (really bad back here) with 750-800cc motor with manual or automatic trans with long suspension. Bigger is better for me - I can't drive in a straight line without leaving town in 2 miles or less. And I don't mind shifting gears - I was doing that for nearly 50 years on 2 wheels until I got the Yamaha and Suzuki scoots I have now. Cruise control would be a huge plus - and a decent stereo would for sure be welcome. I hate having to cobble something up for trips so I can hear something other than the wind once in a while.

For now the 650 Burgman is close to perfect for what I do. I may add an electronic cruise control. The 650 Burgman's downside is suspension with all of 4" of travel. Good on decent highways - not so good on choppy roads which makes it difficult on my back at times. I slow down on bad roads to avoid having to take a pain pill. I like reality!
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Old 02-22-2014, 03:29 PM   #3
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This thing has got your name all over it, knucklehead.


Check out the video.

http://craigvetter.com/pages/Motorcy...s/defiant.html

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Old 02-22-2014, 08:02 PM   #4
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The 1st thing that pops into my mind would be adjustable height windscreens for models offered with windscreens.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:03 PM   #5
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slip streamed art deco high mpg scooters under 400 CC due to issuance where I live. Go back to metal instead of cheap breakable plastic but we all know that would cost cash. But whom wouldn't want to drive one of those Fly 150 scooters that the artist in Portland Or makes?
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:06 PM   #6
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This thing has got your name all over it, knucklehead.


Check out the video.

http://craigvetter.com/pages/Motorcy...s/defiant.html
That thing looks like a glitzy over sized suppository.
I'll pass.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:29 PM   #7
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1) Bring back metal body, manual shift bikes with new 4T powerplants. The Scomadi Turismo leggera is a good start, but it's not shipping to the U.S.



2) Bring back the Honda Big Ruckus, but make it a maxi with a longer wheelbase and 400cc and 650cc variants, like a Burgman.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:58 PM   #8
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Larger fuel tanks

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What would you recommend to improve them? Are there any features you would bring back that have been abandoned over the years?
Bigger fuel tanks, and better rackage/luggage considerations.

I'm more of a scootourer....
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:08 PM   #9
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Right on, Gogogordy.

For many scooters, even a 30-50% bigger tank makes a huge increase in "useful range" before the next planned fuel stop.
And of course, fuel cap access that doesn't mean lifting the seat and/or having to unpack much of the luggage.

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Old 02-23-2014, 01:11 AM   #10
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My design would include: built in gps, cruise control, step through, larger tank, better suspension, and truly comfortable seating for two. Hydraulic valve lifters.
Metal or plastic is not not an issue as long as it is quality. Adapt the collision avoidance technology from autos....so we will be seen ..I am getting tired of people turning left in front of me. I could see a simple stick on transponder could be added to each existing vehicle that says "keep your drunk texting ass away from me."..A transmission with paddle shift technology ... Keeping the simple nature of a tng with the ability to shift gears and climb mountains.

The Vespa MP3 line is truly innovative but got hit with the ugly stick. They should get more credit for bringing those beasts to market.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:39 AM   #11
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I like small scooters. In would take the best of some current scooters and combine them.

Traditional flat floor scooter like my Super 8. Powerplant from the PCX 150. Disc brakes front and rear & not linked. 2 gal fuel tank. Good cornering clearance. 13 or 14 inch wheels. Comfortable seat. Large luggage rack to make it easy to mount a tail trunk. Fuel cap NOT under the seat. East access to the engine for Valve adjustments and other servicing.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:51 AM   #12
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I like small scooters. In would take the best of some current scooters and combine them.

Traditional flat floor scooter like my Super 8. Powerplant from the PCX 150. Disc brakes front and rear & not linked. 2 gal fuel tank. Good cornering clearance. 13 or 14 inch wheels. Comfortable seat. Large luggage rack to make it easy to mount a tail trunk. Fuel cap NOT under the seat. East access to the engine for Valve adjustments and other servicing.
To that formula I would like to add interchangeable wheels that come off easily. This would enable periodic tire rotation, which would double tire life. An on board spare would be a good thing to see again, too.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:01 AM   #13
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I would like to see the Blur220 with 16" wheels.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:50 AM   #14
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Twin cylinder FI engine 400cc or above.

15" wheels minimum.

Adjustable suspension with 4.5+ inches of travel.

Substantial built in storage with design for accommodating additional luggage.

12V receptacles in various places.

Screw developing your own seat. Grace it with a Russell from the get go.

Long service intervals.

550 pound target weight.

ABS, Cruise Control and stereo.

250 mile range.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:56 AM   #15
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Good call on the seat!

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Screw developing your own seat. Grace it with a Russell from the get go.
Damn good call
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