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Old 02-01-2013, 08:06 AM   #91
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Yea, NO WAY a BMW design will be a KTM product....
What he said was Husky would probably use KTM platforms with changes, which sounds good to me.
Thanks to BMW for saving Husqvarna and updating the facility's but take your designs and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! If the new Husky has a model line similar to KTM I will be quite happy, especially in the "adventure bike" class.
Just my opinion, yours may very....
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:12 AM   #92
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Some of us don't drink orange koolade like yourself, no offense meant, but I don't see how a person can ride an LC4 engine more than a few blocks. I hold things like that against a brand.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:14 AM   #93
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It's too early to predict how this will all play out.... I had read that Stefan was sick of Bajaj's intervention and wanted to go his own way - that does seem far-fetched however. Maybe they are trying to forge different identities for each segment?

Perhaps they could market all 3 brands into 3 different categories:

1) Husky - TRUE dual Sport Adv Bikes (i.e. 1190 and NUDA based type stuff) with street bikes (RC line) OR small displacement Urban Bikes for "Chindia" etc...

2) Husaberg - Enduro Competition machines

3) KTM - Motocross Competition machines

I dunno though, KTM has developed such a stellar brand image, I think anything else would dilute that image. Plus globally Husqvarna and Husaberg are not as well known.

OR maybe it's just simply:

1) KTM - competition spec in all categories.

2) Husaberg - specialized 2 stroke and trials applications

3) Husky - basic transportation and urban mobility applications

I dunno - all conjecture and it's all complicated.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:56 AM   #94
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That's because he's not riding an LC4.
Then why is it labelled as such on his engine?
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #95
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Straight from Stefan Pierer himself

Quote taken from this link:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90U1AC20130131


Pierer's KTM also owns the Husaberg, a Swedish brand founded by two engineers in 1988 after Husqvarna motorcycle moved its operations to Italy from its Scandinavian home.
"I want to see Husqvarna sales double in five years time to 20,000 motorbikes," he said, adding that his immediate focus would be on rejuvenating the ageing line-up of offroad models.
Instead of fully integrating both companies, Husqvarna and KTM will be managed separately, while reaping the benefits of using common components.
"This way we can use common engineering platforms to develop a variety of models that have completely different characteristics for each brand," Pierer said.

Immediate focus will be offroad models and using common engineering platforms to develop a variety of models!
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:26 AM   #96
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http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ing-husqvarna/

seems to me the speculation that he is leaving KTM to make Husky a competitor is just hopeful thinking.. I read this as Husky being the cheap model in the KTM family.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:52 PM   #98
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Pierer has a pretty cool job...


What we need now, is ADVRIDER lobbyists at the Austria/Italy border. We need to get P drunk, show him some sketches of possible adv/enduro models...
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:36 PM   #100
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seems to me the speculation that he is leaving KTM to make Husky a competitor is just hopeful thinking.. I read this as Husky being the cheap model in the KTM family.
This is more along the lines that's being discussed off the record,....., I'm hoping they stay with a dual sport enduro however the notorious Husky close ratio 6 speed and lack of fuel capacity really limited them in the segment even though the foundation was every bit as robust as the KTM RFS line up years back. What I don't see is Husky having anything to do with "street" or "adventure" as Pierer is quoted as saying Husqvarna has strayed from their roots and he intends to return HSQ to the MX and SM scene.

SM is an easy deal, Husqvarna has dominated it and the market is so slim that it only needs 1-2 manufactures providing SM race ready bikes and let everyone else convert MX'ers to SM in the other brands. But it's a very limited market and one that is dimishing rapidly as of late. The SM610's sold fairly well, but 3/4 of those sales were with end of year incentives.

As for MX,...the Husky's handle great and have very useable power in the 250 class but don't have a competitive 450 at the moment, but I do know Husky was working on a new 450 class MX bike as long as 2 years ago and then all of the sudden end of last summer nobody knew anything at the factory,....same with the DI 2t Husky has supposedly had under their sleeve for unveiling in the next year or so.

Pierer also made comments to the effect that Husky can go after Yamaha, Kaw, Suz market segments (less expensive then KTM) but he didn't specify MX/SX specifically so he could be talking inexpensive dual sports,....the Terra as a marketing/offering was/is a true hit and unfortunately hard to say if it will continue in the line up, but if they duplicate the offering as a one up KLR/DRZ offering it will continue to sell for $7ish and having 55ish HP with a reliable FI'd engine. Problem is that will cost money to design and BMW already had one laying around so price point was very attainable with a proven power plant.

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Old 02-01-2013, 03:57 PM   #101
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So... If I get offered a killer deal on a new TE310R, should I buy it?

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Old 02-01-2013, 04:03 PM   #102
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As long as you can handle the very close-ratio 6-speed transmission, go for it! The X-lite frame is terrific.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:13 PM   #103
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So... If I get offered a killer deal on a new TE310R, should I buy it?

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:00 PM   #104
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The big question for me is will I be able to get a KTM lawnmower or chainsaw?
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:10 PM   #105
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Berg is gold / ultra premium - Porsche
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