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Old 02-02-2013, 11:01 AM   #121
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Larry, 640s don't vibe, maybe your just overly sensitive...

True, more of a richter scale disturbance when a old LC4 is firing.

I've been thru 4 of them, they fuggin shake. All the street legal ones I sold off quickly due to a 20 minute highway ride in my regular commute. KTM owes Husqvarna thru Husaberg for a smooth single in the RFS and later iterations.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:03 AM   #122
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Larry, 640s don't vibe, maybe your just overly sensitive...




They are the worst of any single ever made.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:32 PM   #123
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Is he the same guy that ran KTM to the brink of bankruptcy? I don't keep up with KTM.
No, actually, in the course of ~ 3 yrs, he's the one that brought them from the brink of bankruptcy to overtaking BMW in sales in Europe +. As a businessman he knows of what he speaks.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #124
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No, actually, in the course of ~ 3 yrs, he's the one that brought them from the brink of bankruptcy to overtaking BMW in sales in Europe +. As a businessman he knows of what he speaks.

Excellent. I love the old Husky(before BMW) and wish them the best, unless they come out with a 2014 630 ASAP I still see myself on a Beta before another Husky.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:49 PM   #125
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From a consumer perspective, I think this can only be good for Husky. I hate what BMW did to them (yeah, I hear a lot of folks like the new 650- not me).
I'm going to consider this good news.
Hate what BMW did to them...

Hm, expanded the dealer network, provided / supported entry into the lucrative street market with the Nuda and the lucrative adventure bike class with the new 650, funded an expanded racing schedule worldwide including more support in the Dakar, and most importantly increased sales by over 15% - in this market in the last yr... Yeah BMW left them in a lurch.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:55 PM   #126
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That's crazy, KTM is the gold standard of Enduro Bikes and as far as Husky being bronze, that is bmw "mini cooper" thinking, I would bet that is going to change.

from http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ing-husqvarna/

Nieuwsmotor: Herr Pierer, congratulations on the purchase of Husqvarna. The big question now is “Why?”

Stefan Pierer: “In the auto industry, you’ve seen a similar movement for years of more brands moving under one roof. The motorcycle market is considerably decreased, therefore consolidation within it has become even more important.”
“To sell more products, it’s logical for a company to target brands at specific niches. KTM is now the global leader in the field of endure and motocross, therefore expansion in those areas is very difficult. That is why, like many auto companies, we are looking at multiple brands that can cooperate in areas such as development, purchasing and the like.”

Nieuwsmotor: Why Husqvarna when, with Husaberg, you already have a similar marque?

Stefan Pierer: “We think that with Husqvarna, there’s a specific niche to tackle. With this brand, we want to focus on competing with Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki. We’d like to move the brand to selling 10,000 units per year, then continue watching. For that, Husqvarna needs to go back to it’s roots, it’s strayed too far.”
“The brand has a wonderful history, but a completely wrong model lineup and is on completely the wrong track. The dealer network was not ready to sell two-cylinder street models.”

“We will work with Husqvarna to go back to its origins. We’ll soon be back in motocross and then in supermoto, both sports in which Husqvarna previously dominated. Within the next year, we will make an appropriate motorcycle developed with the specifications and character Husqvarna needs.”

I find it funny reading KTM criticizing other companies dealer networks and straying away from their roots... um RC8 anyone?

Too bad, I was hoping to see a Husky Superbike (akin to the RC8 TBH) but if truly a part of KTM I can see why they want to kill the road bikes (Nuda) as KTM's road bikes aren't exactly leaping off the showroom floor.

It will be interesting to see what angle they take with them.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:05 PM   #127
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Larry, 640s don't vibe, maybe your just overly sensitive...
Dude, we used to put my buds 640 on its centre-stand, start it up, put it in gear and do donuts on its centre-stand - yeah it vibrated that much.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:33 PM   #128
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No, actually, in the course of ~ 3 yrs, he's the one that brought them from the brink of bankruptcy to overtaking BMW in sales in Europe +. As a businessman he knows of what he speaks.
Actually from what I read KTM overtook BMW in worldwide sales because of the Duke 125 and 200 being made in India, but BMW sold more bikes then KTM in Europe and North America.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:43 PM   #129
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Dude, we used to put my buds 640 on its centre-stand, start it up, put it in gear and do donuts on its centre-stand - yeah it vibrated that much.
I don't spend much time riding on the center stand, come to think of it I don't spend any... As for vibes it is what it is, one of my 640s vibes about the same or less than a 690, the other gives somewhat more... Neither bother me at all and get plenty of use, I put on about 15K- 20K miles per year on them...

I always tell people who are looking to buy a 640 to take one for a spin before they decide, and not just a ride up and down the block, take it where it shines, rough tracks and dirt roads... A good # of the current offerings out there are under suspended and will shake you apart at anything over a moderate pace on choppy, rough trails, this is 640 country...

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Old 02-03-2013, 09:42 AM   #130
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I always tell people who are looking to buy a 640 to take one for a spin before they decide, and not just a ride up and down the block, take it where it shines, rough tracks and dirt roads..., this is 640 country...
This..
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:57 AM   #131
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I have done the same thing when inmates contact me about my 640. The guy I bought it from said it made him numb. This from a guy with an XR650R and now a Berg. Yet I don't even notice any vibration. Except maybe when it is walking across the garage on the center stand.

Also among my friends that have ridden it one thinks it vibrates and the other doesn't. Both are very experienced riders. So it is a personal thing depending entirely on the rider. Anybody making broader generalizations than that is either being a troll or simply doesn't know what they are talking about.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:33 AM   #132
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Hate what BMW did to them...

Hm, expanded the dealer network, provided / supported entry into the lucrative street market with the Nuda and the lucrative adventure bike class with the new 650, funded an expanded racing schedule worldwide including more support in the Dakar, and most importantly increased sales by over 15% - in this market in the last yr... Yeah BMW left them in a lurch.
Also dropped their 450 in favor of BMW's mistake ridden oddball engined special.
Then dropped the 630 just as it was getting good.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:35 AM   #133
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I have done the same thing when inmates contact me about my 640. The guy I bought it from said it made him numb. This from a guy with an XR650R and now a Berg. Yet I don't even notice any vibration. Except maybe when it is walking across the garage on the center stand.

Also among my friends that have ridden it one thinks it vibrates and the other doesn't. Both are very experienced riders. So it is a personal thing depending entirely on the rider. Anybody making broader generalizations than that is either being a troll or simply doesn't know what they are talking about.
My 620SC LC4 hammered the bottom of my feet like pissed off high rpm Keebler elves with small sledge hammers. It still did great 3rd gear wheelies at speed and flat snorted coming off corners.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:14 PM   #134
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Add an aluminum skid plate and they sound like that, too.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:28 AM   #135
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I seem to vibrate less every day by myself.

So now I am now on a KTM life support system.

Seems to be working...
so far.
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