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Old 12-03-2013, 09:40 PM   #1
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Eek Wtf atf???

So, on another forum(don't flog me, I read it for the pictures!!!)I have seen a member there advocate using ATF in the gas.

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I have used this on many of my bike to kepp the carb clean, and it lubes the entire fuel system,

This works well in most cases, for a bike that has sat for some time.

For a bike that has sat. the rings can be dry fuel frozen in one place and may not be sealing against the cylinder wall correctly.

ATF cleans and lubes at the same time, the follwoing parts
including, fuel tank float, fuel pump, carb, valves, top of piston, rings, head.

Your engine will be much smoother and rev smoother too.

I put 1/2 - 1 ounce of ATF for every gallon of gas in my gas tank.

I works really well i have do that for years, because it works so well.

especially with the new crappy gas we have.

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SOmeone please tell me if this guy is smoking two-stroke oil?
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:56 PM   #2
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a.k.a. Marvel Mystery Oil.

Not really needed. Usually can't hurt too much.
Sort of like the Little Rascals always getting a spoonful of Castor Oil. Sort of. Everyone knows it belongs in a two stroke!
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:09 AM   #3
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Doesn't hurt at all. In fact you can make a homemade carb synch tool with tubing and ATF fluid as the medium. By using ATF instead of anything else, it won't hurt the engine if it accidentally gets sucked in.
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Old 12-04-2013, 03:01 PM   #4
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"For a bike that has sat. the rings can be dry fuel frozen in one place and may not be sealing against the cylinder wall correctly."


I hate it when my rings are fuel frozen.

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Old 12-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #5
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A buddy of mine also recommended throwing in some oil into the gas if you've got an old car that doesn't have hardened seats. He restores Healeys for a living.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:23 AM   #6
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As a fuel system treatment, I don't know why you wouldn't just use seafoam...

ATF really isn't that great a lubricant, but it does seem to work as a penetrating oil for stuck rings and such. Typically, it isn't as viscous as other common oils.

I've heard of the oil in the gas trick as well, but I would imagine that would really coke up valve and piston surfaces. Guess it depends how much you put in.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:23 AM   #7
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Not so much in fuel systems but adding maybe a pint to a cars oil change has been done by many folks for decades. Usually by those too cheap to buy MMO.
ATF does work well in a manometer though. Easy to see and if it gets sucked into the engine, no harm done.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #8
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I've read accounts...

of folks freeing up the apex seals in rotary engines by soaking them in ATF. (dump a bunch (cup?) of ATF into the spark plug hole, let sit a few days, gently bump the rotor to the next lobe and repeat, and repeat again, then put in the spark plugs and fire it up. Emergency response levels of smoke will emerge, so choose your repair location accordingly, and have spare plugs for the fouling and replace with fresh when it stops smoking...)

Certainly, there are worse things to mix into the gas tank. Probably mostly harmless.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:23 PM   #9
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Ashless TCW3 two stroke oil if you want to try it as a gas additive.

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Old 12-09-2013, 10:26 AM   #10
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Ashless TCW3 two stroke oil if you want to try it as a gas additive.

Alex.
This. I started doing this recently and have been pleasantly surprised with the results. 2 oz per 5 gallons. I use the cheap wlamart supertech stuff. With the increase in fuel mileage it basically pays for itself.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:34 AM   #11
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I also get an increase in fuel mileage from MMO or TCW-3 oil. On the beemer, using pure gas and the oil, I get as much as 47. On just pure gas, 44-45. 10% ethanol swill, 41-43. On the RS I have traveled 275 miles on a tank with a comfortable reserve left.

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Old 12-09-2013, 12:59 PM   #12
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This. I started doing this recently and have been pleasantly surprised with the results. 2 oz per 5 gallons. I use the cheap wlamart supertech stuff. With the increase in fuel mileage it basically pays for itself.
Interesting...I may try that next year. With Stihl 2 stroke oil, I have lots of that. Made by Castrol Canada that one but it does contain fuel stabilizer, says right on the container.

Needless to say if I run out of gas with the KRS and all that's available is premix, it will be going into the tank, done that before....
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