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Old 07-13-2014, 03:00 PM   #1
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Why no hi-Viz in the premium shoei helmets?

new 1200 or GT air
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:05 PM   #2
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I've only meet two people with Hi-Viz helmets and may have seen one or two while out riding.....not much demand?
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:54 PM   #3
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Check out the Neotec. There's a black model with bright green stripes. Also, white is also considered a 'safe' helmet color.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:11 PM   #4
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actually the only color that was shown to increase viability was indeed white... I dont know those models, but if they are new, Shoei always brings out the high vis models after other models in new models... .. did I say models enough??
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:32 PM   #5
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:52 AM   #6
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the Shoei Yellow is much more visible than the hi viz green others have.
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:32 AM   #7
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Hi Viz always fades after a time and looks crappy. It's the nature of the beast -- since it reacts with UV, there's no way to make a hi-viz dye or paint that doesn't fade with exposure to sunlight.

People don't understand this and bitch bitterly when their expensive Hi-Viz helmets and gear start fading after a year or two (I've seen it here in this very forum). Shoei, understandably, doesn't want to deal with it. And they probably don't want their helmets out there looking faded.

You can still get "brilliant yellow" or white solid RF1200 or GT-Air, and the Qwest is also available in the same "brilliant yellow" -- it's a nice bright yellow, but it's not a Hi-Viz or "neon" yellow, even though some web sites have it listed incorrectly as Hi-Viz.

There's a patterned RF1200 ("Beacon") that uses true red or yellow Hi-Viz -- this is probably designed this way specifically because the fading won't be as apparent when it's part of a pattern.

As mentioned above, boring old solid white helmets have been shown to be the most visible.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:24 AM   #8
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new 1200 or GT air
Can't remember off the top of my head, but either the gt air or neotec has an LE graphic that is like an angled half white/black helmet.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:37 AM   #9
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My friend was kind of looking for one and I said about just getting a white one. They stick out pretty good.
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:18 AM   #10
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:34 AM   #11
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Hi Viz always fades after a time and looks crappy. It's the nature of the beast -- since it reacts with UV, there's no way to make a hi-viz dye or paint that doesn't fade with exposure to sunlight.

People don't understand this and bitch bitterly when their expensive Hi-Viz helmets and gear start fading after a year or two (I've seen it here in this very forum). Shoei, understandably, doesn't want to deal with it. And they probably don't want their helmets out there looking faded.

You can still get "brilliant yellow" or white solid RF1200 or GT-Air, and the Qwest is also available in the same "brilliant yellow" -- it's a nice bright yellow, but it's not a Hi-Viz or "neon" yellow, even though some web sites have it listed incorrectly as Hi-Viz.

There's a patterned RF1200 ("Beacon") that uses true red or yellow Hi-Viz -- this is probably designed this way specifically because the fading won't be as apparent when it's part of a pattern.

As mentioned above, boring old solid white helmets have been shown to be the most visible.
Yep, after many years of a couple Scorpion High Viz helmets in yellow and then a Nexx in Orange and lots of Olympia Hi-Viz gear, I'm done with all of it. It's great when its new and bright, but spend enough time in the sun, the helmets always fade and look like crap and the jackets get pale and attract major dirt that is impossible to get off. It's hard to keep hi-viz gear looking nice after just one year with moderate riding and by 2 years it usually looks well past worn.

I still have darker gear that is 5-10 years old and looks much better than my 1-3 year old Hi-viz gear.

I figure going forward if I want hi-viz, it will be one of those vests that are cheaper and easier to replace. Lots of companies make them now and they are pretty easy to throw on an attach. If they start looking grungy, its a lot cheaper to replace them.
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:35 PM   #12
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I bought a white GT-Air. I would have bought high-viz but, y'know. Not available. I don't think the flat black with a small high-viz stripe counts.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:05 PM   #13
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I bought a white GT-Air. I would have bought high-viz but, y'know. Not available. I don't think the flat black with a small high-viz stripe counts.
There are a few guys near me that wear hi-viz helmets. I don't see them standing out at all other than in low light like at dusk. I notice contrast much more than solid, bright color. Dark helmet with a contrasting stripe or the reverse catches my eye much more. YMMV
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:59 PM   #14
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So long as it's not made from polycarbonate you can paint your helmet any color or design you want.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:22 AM   #15
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I wear a safety vest over my black jkt & pants with white helmet. You can easily add safety tape to any helmet and not pay for a high-viz color.
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