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Old 05-20-2015, 08:48 PM   #1
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Hard tail Fascination why?

I vaguely remember hard tail bikes from my young days, I do remember the sprung tractor saddles they usually wore.
I do not understand the fascination of some people making modern bikes hard tails.
Just seems wrong. When I see a made hard tail without a sprung saddle I wonder where the smooth roads are.
I do wonder if the loss of suspension travel on cruisers contributed to the art aspect of cruiser riding.
Just, I have wanted more/better suspension out of every bike I have owned.
Is there a rational.
I have ridden a few hard tails long ago. Back breakers.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:36 PM   #2
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The chicks love tough guys?

Meh it's not my bike.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:46 PM   #3
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Its all about the look.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:56 PM   #4
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They are popular because they are stupid easy to build. I wouldn't own one
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Old 05-21-2015, 04:26 AM   #5
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I do wonder if the loss of suspension travel on cruisers contributed to the art aspect of cruiser riding.
I suspect they are strongly related. As well the reduction of lean angle.

Many of those works of art are not for riding. Just as many a street rod is not for driving. Yes, either can be ridden or driven, but not in the generic normal sense.
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Old 05-21-2015, 04:42 AM   #6
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So they can look like a hard-ass whilst posing by the motorbike. Like the genre, it's all about image.

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Old 05-21-2015, 05:10 AM   #7
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Different styles of bikes for different types of riders. I was fortunate enough to grow up with people that owned choppers and actually rode the crap out of them. I am now fortunate enough to have friends that have choppers and also ride the shit out of them. hell, some of my favorite ride reports on this very forum are of a rider doing world travel on a hardtail chopper. it really is as simple as different strokes for different folks.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:35 AM   #8
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i ride a rigid leaf spring fork Indian. in new England. on a fair amount of dirt and gravel which is often in better shape than the old secondary roads we prefer.

honestly, it's not that big a deal. clearly you need to ride the bike at it's own pace, which might not be as fast as a modern bike but i mostly ride with guys on modern stuff and i don't get many complaints about the pace. what i miss about a swing arm bike more than the softer ride is the brakes- the rigid rear end doesn't keep the rear wheel on the road surface when the brake is on, it skips across the high spots. i run 18 pounds air pressure which is what is recommended in the manual and have a properly set up "pogo" seat - that's a sprung seat post so there is some give there too.

i spent years on a bicycle and still mountain bike so maybe i just have lower expectations of comfort but i'm no hero (or idiot) for having a hardtail. the bike is sooo much fun to ride. got somewhere around 8,000 miles last season so i'm not talking about ice cream runs on 3 day weekends either. trying to make the time to ride to seattle this season but work look like it's gonna spoil that plan.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:55 AM   #9
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Large lard asses do not need suspension.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:13 AM   #10
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insightful commentary
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:16 AM   #11
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I suppose it's for the simplicity. That and as we all know good suspension is big $.

I don't think I've ever ridden a hard tail MC. I'm sure it would be cool, but my hard tail MTB, is close enough for me.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:35 AM   #12
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Because, that's why. Simple answer to a seemingly endless lists of "why" questions. Why does the sun rise in the east and set in the west? Why are you SO concerned with this? Passed by someone on a hardtail whilst riding your GSXR1000?
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:14 AM   #13
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So they can look like a hard-ass whilst posing by the motorbike. Like the genre, it's all about image.

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Maybe, and I'll grant you in most instances this might be a valid assessment.



But you also have this:
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Different styles of bikes for different types of riders. I was fortunate enough to grow up with people that owned choppers and actually rode the crap out of them. I am now fortunate enough to have friends that have choppers and also ride the shit out of them. hell, some of my favorite ride reports on this very forum are of a rider doing world travel on a hardtail chopper. it really is as simple as different strokes for different folks.
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i ride a rigid leaf spring fork Indian. in new England. on a fair amount of dirt and gravel which is often in better shape than the old secondary roads we prefer.

honestly, it's not that big a deal. clearly you need to ride the bike at it's own pace, which might not be as fast as a modern bike but i mostly ride with guys on modern stuff and i don't get many complaints about the pace. what i miss about a swing arm bike more than the softer ride is the brakes- the rigid rear end doesn't keep the rear wheel on the road surface when the brake is on, it skips across the high spots. i run 18 pounds air pressure which is what is recommended in the manual and have a properly set up "pogo" seat - that's a sprung seat post so there is some give there too.

i spent years on a bicycle and still mountain bike so maybe i just have lower expectations of comfort but i'm no hero (or idiot) for having a hardtail. the bike is sooo much fun to ride. got somewhere around 8,000 miles last season so i'm not talking about ice cream runs on 3 day weekends either. trying to make the time to ride to seattle this season but work look like it's gonna spoil that plan.
People can and do ride many kinds of motorcycles for many reasons, thank god we're not all tools on Panigales.

I'd heartily recommend RTWDougs RR on his chopper.. It's not for everyone but it was an amazing story.

this guy also seems to enjoy his ride. http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...=harley&page=2

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Old 05-21-2015, 09:21 AM   #14
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I once had a hard tail custom Sportster. Rode it from Fla. to Ma., then gave it away to a friend and took the bus back. Even at 19 years old, my back and ass weren't made for them.

That said, to each his or her own. I don't get the Gold Wing thing, but appreciate those who ride them. Same with the big adventure bikes but, to be fair on those it may be because I have short legs. Doesn't mean I don't appredciate what they are and those who ride them. Same with hard tails.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:50 PM   #15
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