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Old 03-27-2013, 12:00 AM   #91
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So, why, do, I, need, a, load, of complicated, expensive, electronics, to control, an, excess, of, power,I, don't, need, to have, on,an, 'enduro touring bike'? Your words matey.
If, you, don't, need, all, this, (great) power, don't, buy, this, bike.
But most of all, find yourself an other thread.......
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:15 AM   #92
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If, you, don't, need, all, this, (great) power, don't, buy, this, bike.
But most of all, find yourself an other thread.......


Excellent answer!
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:41 AM   #93
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Is it hard for you to understand that people actually like this bike? I love my 950 but i'm not gonna be judgemental until i tried it.

And no, i'm not a fan of electronics either. But i'm gonna wait and see how it plays out.


So basically, it lacks the explosive character you would expect from a fat v-twin? I hope it's the setting that does that.
I like the lc8 engines for their 'partybomb' power delivery.
I have managed about 200 miles on an 1190 now and have started to 'play' with the electronics.

With the traction control on the bike is very easy to ride, the electronics take care of a lot without the rider realising what is going on. Accelerate hard out of tight corner in 1st/2nd gear and it accelerates without drama - just a little light flashing on the dash to tell you the traction control is working. Accelerate hard in first gear and it just goes forward very swiftly - no wheelies or wheelspin - again just the traction control light flashing on the dash.

All very user friendly but also very efficient and fast. If you want to get from A to B on a twisty mountain road without drama and are not a top level rider I am not sure if there is a better bike out there.

On the other hand you can always switch the traction control off.

In 'off road' mode (the tamest of the power settings) it will lift the front wheel just off tickover in first and from about 3,000 rpm in second. The best bit is that the ride by wire throttle makes it very easy to balance once the wheel is in the air .........

Put it into sport mode without traction control and you really do need to know what you are doing ..........
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:58 AM   #94
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I have managed about 200 miles on an 1190 now and have started to 'play' with the electronics.

With the traction control on the bike is very easy to ride, the electronics take care of a lot without the rider realising what is going on. Accelerate hard out of tight corner in 1st/2nd gear and it accelerates without drama - just a little light flashing on the dash to tell you the traction control is working. Accelerate hard in first gear and it just goes forward very swiftly - no wheelies or wheelspin - again just the traction control light flashing on the dash.

All very user friendly but also very efficient and fast. If you want to get from A to B on a twisty mountain road without drama and are not a top level rider I am not sure if there is a better bike out there.

On the other hand you can always switch the traction control off.

In 'off road' mode (the tamest of the power settings) it will lift the front wheel just off tickover in first and from about 3,000 rpm in second. The best bit is that the ride by wire throttle makes it very easy to balance once the wheel is in the air .........

Put it into sport mode without traction control and you really do need to know what you are doing ..........
I am a fan of electronics when they are done right.
I expect abs and traction control are. Pebble35, your description of the traction control operation is more clear than any of the professional test drive reports I've read, thanks.
A little disappointed in the lack of adjustability of the electronic suspension settings though. At least KTM offers the option of the base model where suspension settings can be fine tuned.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:12 PM   #95
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. At least KTM offers the option of the base model where suspension settings can be fine tuned.
I R has superior suspensions, there's non need of adjust it every 2 minutes! they work very well and in case it's possible tune them easily.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:21 PM   #96
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I am a fan of electronics when they are done right.
I expect abs and traction control are. Pebble35, your description of the traction control operation is more clear than any of the professional test drive reports I've read, thanks.
A little disappointed in the lack of adjustability of the electronic suspension settings though. At least KTM offers the option of the base model where suspension settings can be fine tuned.
Have to say I agree with the comments on the suspension - which is a big part of why I have an R on order for myself................

Went for a quick play in a gravel car park tonight to see how the traction control worked in. In rain mode it simply hooks up and drives - full throttle in first gear - it just goes forward - no spin, no fuss, no drama ! Looked back at the tyre tracks and you can see that it was spinning up but only very slightly.

Just charging the helmet cam and will try and get some video tomorrow.......
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:12 AM   #97
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This mode, that mode ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Knew this forum would be like this as soon as electronics got involved, what have all these modes got to do with ADVENTURE bike riding?

Just saying like.

So lets see your "adventure riding resume"

Ill bet you are as skilled as you are experienced
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Old 03-31-2013, 02:15 AM   #98
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So lets see your "adventure riding resume"

Ill bet you are as skilled as you are experienced
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry, did you say something.

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Old 03-31-2013, 04:07 AM   #99
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Post that video...genau. Pretty please vvith some recklessness in it. VVe need more discussions.


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Old 03-31-2013, 09:03 AM   #100
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This mode, that mode ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Knew this forum would be like this as soon as electronics got involved, what have all these modes got to do with ADVENTURE bike riding?

Just saying like.
25 posts, no public profile, just joined advrider.

Maybe you should do some rides first and post some helpful info
before you start your whinning.

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Old 03-31-2013, 09:26 AM   #101
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Now back to oue local programming.

I'll most likely be getting the R, and the fact that you cannot change the
settings on the suspension on the standard is to bad.
I prefer to get my suspension set up the way I like it and crank some preload
for two up rides.

On my '10 multi S the suspension is fully adjustable through the bikes
computer as is the traction control in each riding mode. With bikes this
strong the TC is a good feature for most of us meer mortal riders, confronted
with the extreme conditions an adventure ride presents us with.

The greasey pavement at Mexican toll booths when wet is always a good
indicator of how well your abs and tc function.
I'd think the tc on the 1190 will help me get some more life out of rear tires as well.

A question for those who have ridden the 1190's, what's the engine vibe
profile like compared to the 990.
Does it still have the buzz around 5000 rpm ?

Twist it, Max
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:25 AM   #102
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Have to say I agree with the comments on the suspension - which is a big part of why I have an R on order for myself................

Went for a quick play in a gravel car park tonight to see how the traction control worked in. In rain mode it simply hooks up and drives - full throttle in first gear - it just goes forward - no spin, no fuss, no drama ! Looked back at the tyre tracks and you can see that it was spinning up but only very slightly.

Just charging the helmet cam and will try and get some video tomorrow.......
Waiting for updated video
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:53 AM   #103
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This bike on fast off road it's a missle, the suspensions "eat" every irregularity and the abs works so well that I keep it on. Driving fast becomes simple and easy...

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Old 03-31-2013, 12:08 PM   #104
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I'll most likely be getting the R, and the fact that you cannot change the
settings on the suspension on the standard is to bad.
I prefer to get my suspension set up the way I like it and crank some preload
for two up rides.
Isn't it the other way around? Adjustable on the S but not on the R model - http://www.visordown.com/features/di...tml#historysub
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:53 PM   #105
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Isn't it the other way around? Adjustable on the S but not on the R model - http://www.visordown.com/features/di...tml#historysub
your attachment states: Both bikes feature WP fully-adjustable suspension front and rear however the R version's travel is increased at the front and rear from 190mm to 220mm.
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