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Old 02-07-2013, 06:21 AM   #16
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I'm at Bathurst and Eglinton in Toronto and ive got a 950adv - happy to come help you with the settings anytime. Feel free to email me at alongat.gat@gmail.com or text me at 416-930-7405

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:07 AM   #17
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Thank you all for your replies.



I would like to give the stock suspension a try, play with the settings described on the label, and then decide.
Look, I know you're Canadian and all, but this whole "voice of reason" and rational thinking is really a killjoy.

Get with the program, here. This is simply not the place for careful, measured responses.

Throw money, fer cryin out loud!
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:36 AM   #18
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Look, I know you're Canadian and all, but this whole "voice of reason" and rational thinking is really a killjoy.

Get with the program, here. This is simply not the place for careful, measured responses.

Throw money, fer cryin out loud!
I think the cheapest help for the front forks is to raise the oil level allot. Then do springs and start turning up the rebound once you add springs. It's a band-aid but it helps.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #19
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look, i know you're canadian and all, but this whole "voice of reason" and rational thinking is really a killjoy.

Get with the program, here. This is simply not the place for careful, measured responses.

Throw money, fer cryin out loud!
lol :)
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #20
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Who manufactures springs for my 06 950A?

I only have 10kkm on it. My valving is fresh. I plan to leave them alone and increase my rebound damping.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #21
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Who manufactures springs for my 06 950A?

I only have 10kkm on it. My valving is fresh. I plan to leave them alone and increase my rebound damping.
The stock rebound valving is inadequate for stiffer springs for the most part.

Superplush and racetech both have springs for the 950 as well as others.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:47 PM   #22
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Northyork,


Start with Standard settings, and ride the bike solo, with no luggage, and get used to your new bike.
Leave the suspension alone until at least until you get past the first 1000km service.
If you are over 90kg, step up to those settings, and ride it solo for another 1000km.
After that, change it to Sport settings, and put another 1000km on it.
By the time you get to 3000km, and provided you rode basically the same roads on each setup, you should have an idea of how the different settings change the feel of the bike, and what you prefer.

Keep in mind, there is no perfect setting for all around use. For example:
SPORT will feel best going fast on smooth roads, but awful when slowly putting along a bumpy two track gravel road.
COMFORT on the other hand, will probably feel good on that two track (until you hit a pot hole and bottom the forks) but will feel wallowy and vague when going fast on that smooth pavement.

Here is some good guidance. Although this article is centred on a sport bike, the principles are the same.
http://www.visordown.com/workshop/mo...etup/2487.html

There is no magic settings between solo and fully loaded, that will make the bike feel the same. The bike will feel differemt loaded from light, regardless of suspension setup.

Generally speaking, with my own 950, which has the forks reworked from standard as I've described above, but a stock rear shock, going from solo riding, to two up travelling, I will increase damping by about 2-4 clicks all around to better stabilize the extra weight going up and down. I may also add shock preload to the rear spring to keep rear ride height similar.

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Old 02-07-2013, 12:50 PM   #23
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Canadians can get springs from Riders Edge Suspension in Vernon BC.

+1 "The stock rebound valving is inadequate for stiffer springs for the most part." Agreed
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:01 PM   #24
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Northyork,


Start with Standard settings, and ride the bike solo, with no luggage, and get used to your new bike.
Leave the suspension alone until at least until you get past the first 1000km service.
If you are over 90kg, step up to those settings, and ride it solo for another 1000km.
After that, change it to Sport settings, and put another 1000km on it.
By the time you get to 3000km, and provided you rode basically the same roads on each setup, you should have an idea of how the different settings change the feel of the bike, and what you prefer.

Keep in mind, there is no perfect setting for all around use. For example:
SPORT will feel best going fast on smooth roads, but awful when slowly putting along a bumpy two track gravel road.
COMFORT on the other hand, will probably feel good on that two track (until you hit a pot hole and bottom the forks) but will feel wallowy and vague when going fast on that smooth pavement.

Here is some good guidance. Although this article is centred on a sport bike, the principles are the same.
http://www.visordown.com/workshop/mo...etup/2487.html

There is no magic settings between solo and fully loaded, that will make the bike feel the same. The bike will feel differemt loaded from light, regardless of suspension setup.

Generally speaking, with my own 950, which has the forks reworked from standard as I've described above, but a stock rear shock, going from solo riding, to two up travelling, I will increase damping by about 2-4 clicks all around to better stabilize the extra weight going up and down. I may also add shock preload to the rear spring to keep rear ride height similar.

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Thanks for the advice
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:05 PM   #25
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I'm at Bathurst and Eglinton in Toronto and ive got a 950adv - happy to come help you with the settings anytime. Feel free to email me at alongat.gat@gmail.com or text me at 416-930-7405

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Alon, Thank you. I will PM you.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:09 PM   #26
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80% of the improvement can easily be obtained without spending a lot of money. Stiffer springs in front and a bit thicker fork oil.

20% will come from taking it apart and re-shimming / re-valving it which is the expensive part. the added value of which, is not that recognizable to common riders.

I agree with Marko however. you need to get an idea of how the hole thing works first.

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Old 02-08-2013, 09:31 AM   #27
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One Change at a Time...Springs are 1st

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Superplush and racetech both have springs for the 950 as well as others.
Great, thanks.

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The stock rebound valving is inadequate for stiffer springs for the most part.
I'll find out after I've sprung it to my needs. I've been around bikes and bike shops to know that doing more than one mod at a time will limit your actual knowledge about the effect of the modification.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:18 PM   #28
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80% of the improvement can easily be obtained without spending a lot of money. Stiffer springs in front and a bit thicker fork oil.

20% will come from taking it apart and re-shimming / re-valving it which is the expensive part. the added value of which, is not that recognizable to common riders.

I agree with Marko however. you need to get an idea of how the hole thing works first.

More like 50% and 50% in my humble opinion. Maybe 60/40

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Old 02-08-2013, 12:38 PM   #29
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More like 50% and 50% in my humble opinion. Maybe 60/40

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What- you're some sort of expert or something?
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:19 PM   #30
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What- you're some sort of expert or something?

If that's the same James Siddall that makes his living running Superplush SUSPENSIONS then I'd say YES!!!!!! LOL.
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