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Old 02-06-2013, 11:28 AM   #46
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Has anyone noticed how a NC700X looks like a porpoise? Or is it just me?

I get low 40's mpg on my 1200 Triumph,yet only 20 mpg at a sustained 140mph cruise.
I dont get it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:30 AM   #47
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I dont know why a 700 cc twin cant easily get to 100mph. I have a 650cc thumper and i can get it to 100mph fairly easy, with the top end of over 110mph. I know how to calculate MPGs, have done it for years. My 650 thumper gets 70mpg at 70mph, if I run extended miles at 80-85mph, I get around 60mpg; however, if I ride extended miles at 45mph (Blueridge parkway) my bike gets over 80mpg.
I am going to the Indy bike show in a couple of weeks; I am going to look at the nc700 and the cb500x.
I also have a 805cc cruiser which gets 52-55mpg doing 70mph (and it weighs 600lb).
70mpg at 70mph......that must be one special thumper. My DR650 gets 50mpg most of the time and still can do that at 70mph at times.
70mpg is pretty special.

The NC700 only revs to 6 grand,not what you call a top speed unit.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:47 AM   #48
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Real world riders are reporting 42-47 mpg
Who are the real world riders Larry? Do they know its got 6 gears

Worst i've got is low 60's imp and I was riding like I had stolen it!
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:57 AM   #49
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So Bazzaz is really wanting to make a fuel controller for the NC700X. My concern is that we're not going to be able to get it to do any better than the fuel millage numbers it's supposed to do stock, like 70mpg or something ridiculous. So those of you who own this bike, what are you looking for? If I can get you more power, are you going to be happy with that, or will I need to try and make a map that will beat the stock mpg numbers? Or control units do hold two maps which can be toggled between via the map select circuit on the harness; so maybe make a power map and then leave the other one blank so you can go back to stock fueling when you need the mileage.

I value your guys' opinion, consider this a market research question.

And if you're in SoCal and you want yours to be the guinea pig, I'll give you a free fuel controller and custom map.
being able to toggle with two maps would be really nice, there are times i would like more power, and times where i need more fuel economy, i have a after market muffler on my nc700x, i also have a 5.4 gallon fuel system and get 68 mpg so the stock map would, maybe need to be there if the modified maps was mpg was poor. if you make one i will buy it. my dealership has installed your products and they work very good, dale at south bound Honda, wash state
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #50
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being able to toggle with two maps would be really nice, there are times i would like more power, and times where i need more fuel economy, i have a after market muffler on my nc700x, i also have a 5.4 gallon fuel system and get 68 mpg so the stock map would, maybe need to be there if the modified maps was mpg was poor. if you make one i will buy it. my dealership has installed your products and they work very good, dale at south bound Honda, wash state
Got any friends down in my area with this bike? The local Honda dealers can't keep them on the floor long enough to lend one too me.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:06 PM   #51
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.........I dont know why a 700 cc twin cant easily get to 100mph.
The NC700X pulls 100 easily. It does a bit over a 100 in 5th and pulls 110 in 6th. (GPS speed).
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:15 PM   #52
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Do you have a thread on that fuel tank O__O ? Please share!
Here ya go.

http://nc700-forum.com/forum/nc700-m...l-tank-nc.html
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #53
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Well, not done by the fueler but an ecu reflash.
I would like the rev limiter to kick in around 1000rpm after peak power
and not only 250rpm after peak power to give a little over run room
and not have the bike hitting the limiter so soon. A redline of 7000rpm
would be great for those occasion times when one wanst to get close to
peak power and not have the door slammed shut 250rpm later.
A little over run space, please.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:45 PM   #54
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Well, not done by the fueler but an ecu reflash.
I would like the rev limiter to kick in around 1000rpm after peak power
and not only 250rpm after peak power to give a little over run room
and not have the bike hitting the limiter so soon. A redline of 7000rpm
would be great for those occasion times when one wanst to get close to
peak power and not have the door slammed shut 250rpm later.
A little over run space, please.
Unfortunately raising the rev limit is something that none of our products can do. This is a setting that can only be adjusted/modified in the ECU, not something we can "trick" the bike into doing with a piggy back unit.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:16 PM   #55
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No serious intention of buying, just passing the time, so go flog a commuter for 126 miles at speeds in excess of 100? Not at all a fan of dealers in general or of the NC in particular, but I think this might be one of the reasons test rides are getting harder to come by.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:56 PM   #56
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No serious intention of buying, just passing the time, so go flog a commuter for 126 miles at speeds in excess of 100? Not at all a fan of dealers in general or of the NC in particular, but I think this might be one of the reasons test rides are getting harder to come by.

Or the whole story is a BS fabrication troll tail. .
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:12 PM   #57
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Well, not done by the fueler but an ecu reflash.
I would like the rev limiter to kick in around 1000rpm after peak power
and not only 250rpm after peak power to give a little over run room
and not have the bike hitting the limiter so soon. A redline of 7000rpm
would be great for those occasion times when one wanst to get close to
peak power and not have the door slammed shut 250rpm later.
A little over run space, please.
Honda likely built in the 6400 rpm "hard" rev limiter in order to limit piston speed to less than 3500 feet per minute in the interest of long service life and high volumetric efficiency. It is hard to efficiently fill undersquare engines beyond a healthy midrange. No doubt it could rev slightly more but the inlet design, valve timing, and fueling are designed to maximize efficiency in the low and mid rev range and spinning it faster moves the package further from that ideal besides elevating stress on bearings and connecting rods. My opinion is if we change the map let's look for a little more torque and give up a little mpg.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:34 PM   #58
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honda likely built in the 6400 rpm "hard" rev limiter in order to limit piston speed to less than 3500 feet per minute in the interest of long service life and high volumetric efficiency. It is hard to efficiently fill undersquare engines beyond a healthy midrange. No doubt it could rev slightly more but the inlet design, valve timing, and fueling are designed to maximize efficiency in the low and mid rev range and spinning it faster moves the package further from that ideal besides elevating stress on bearings and connecting rods. My opinion is if we change the map let's look for a little more torque and give up a little mpg.

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:38 PM   #59
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Honda likely built in the 6400 rpm "hard" rev limiter in order to limit piston speed to less than 3500 feet per minute in the interest of long service life and high volumetric efficiency. It is hard to efficiently fill undersquare engines beyond a healthy midrange. No doubt it could rev slightly more but the inlet design, valve timing, and fueling are designed to maximize efficiency in the low and mid rev range and spinning it faster moves the package further from that ideal besides elevating stress on bearings and connecting rods. My opinion is if we change the map let's look for a little more torque and give up a little mpg.
I understand that and that's probably the case, but I don't think a few hundred rpm overhead
for a few milliseconds as being a huge problem for valvetrain longevity. I guess Honda knows best.
I'm perfectly happy with all the other power and mpg characteristics of this great motor.
Fits right in with my current riding needs and style.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:41 PM   #60
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My thought is why not improve what it does best, MPG. It will never be a powerful motor no matter what you do. My KTM with a competitors product, cans and a filter picked up both mpg and about 10 hp. Do that and I'm in.
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