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Old 09-22-2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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06 950 Adv: Stalls on take off when cold

I have been having an issue with my clutch. When the bike is cold, I am experiencing an issue on take off. When I take off in first, the clutch kind of "chirps" and stalls if I don't feather the clutch. After the bike is warmed up, I have no problems. What is causing this? Is it time for a new clutch?
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:48 PM   #2
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When was the last time you changed the fluid in the master cylinder?
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:36 AM   #3
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I changed the fluid when I put a new slave on about 500 miles ago. Thanks.
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:03 AM   #4
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Have you checked your clutch oil jet recently?
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:21 AM   #5
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Just went through this on my 04 Adv. New pushrod, oil jet, bleeding slave did nothing. Swapped the 2 outer steel discs for inner discs and new belleville spring (#11 on fische) ..... problem solved.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:22 PM   #6
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It's the belleville spring. Had exactly the same problem. Open her up and you'll find this:



The spring wears a groove into the disc, the spring then catches on its own groove and doesn't transition from dis- to engaged smoothly anymore. Hot oil hides the problem. Thankfully, you have a bunch of spares in there. Just swap them out.
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:49 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replies. I took out the jet...after royally f'ing it up. Don't know if it was plugged. I need a new one.

I took the clutch plates out and inspected the plates and steel rings. All were good except the last steel ring had a groove worn in it.

Do I just replace the steel ring or put it in a different location in the stack?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:04 PM   #8
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Just re-read the previous post. So I take it its ok to just swap the bad ring with a good one? Do I need a new Belleville spring?
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #9
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Cold clutching

My 950 has had a grabby clutch on start-up since I bought it 5 years ago. You could try a larger oil jet or check the plates, but if it clutches normally after it warms up, there are no problems and you would be wasting money and riding time. So just wait until you see 1 or more bars on the engine temp, then go.
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Just re-read the previous post. So I take it its ok to just swap the bad ring with a good one? Do I need a new Belleville spring?

Probably don't need a new Belleville. I had ordered one ahead of time before I took it apart. There was no difference between the new and old that I could tell. Just swap the discs.
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:46 AM   #11
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Thank you. I'll try that.

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