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02-05-2013, 09:20 AM
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n00balicious
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Step drill makes a nice round hole.
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02-05-2013, 10:19 AM
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Easily trainable
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Pic a size and aim well:
Gotta say I'm in the camp of "the engineers knew what they were doing" though.
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02-05-2013, 10:29 AM
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"Cool" Aid!
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Hole saw.
As for the legitimacy of doing it, it just depends. The engineers, as mentioned, design an airbox for a wide variety of factors. Noise is a big one. On my Triumph Scrambler, the airbox mod really helped with an open exhaust. Jim
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02-05-2013, 10:34 AM
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Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2011
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I would try a new
forsner bit , cuts a nice clean hole. |
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02-05-2013, 10:43 AM
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Anatomically Correct
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Chicago-ish
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Forstner bits work great, but are happiest in a drill press . . . ..
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02-05-2013, 10:44 AM
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A proud pragmatist.
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Location: Hiding off Hwy 6, B.C.
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The noise thing....that can be very annoying depending on exactly what kind of noises you create. Could be good noises but sure wasn't so on my snowmobile back then. Seemed to come up at high pitch and into my helmet.
![]() I replugged them holes. And I am getting old and hearing going down. May have something to do with all them moving air noises at work.
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02-05-2013, 10:58 AM
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Lampin' it
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Turning expensive metal into scrap
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Pick up a deburring tool, cleans the fuzz from the drill bit like magic
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02-05-2013, 11:26 AM
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let's keep going...
Joined: May 2008
Location: West-By-God Virginia
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You can start with a small hole and easily increase it with the tool (once you cut a hole you no longer have a center for the bigger hole saw to align on) and can make custom-shaped holes to match the contours of the box, frame position, etc I use the General Tool No 482 deburring tool, can be found at Home Depot, Lowes, etc as well as good hardware/hobby shops: intake noise & weatherproofness are the deciding factors. The engineers design on noise, filtering, ease of maintenance, rain-proofing. But now, mostly intake noise. If someone modifies their engines (carb, cams, exhaust) they could certainly increase performance/power, I'm one of many who have done it- often at the sake of rain-proofness. To each his own...
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02-07-2013, 03:55 PM
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What could go wrong?
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Beautiful Revelstoke BC
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My vote is with the step bit too. Forestner wood bit will made a nice clen hole as well if you have one.
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02-07-2013, 04:02 PM
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a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave
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Regardless of been a good idea or not, like making holes on a piece of plastic just for fun..
You can use stainless steel mesh like this and some pop rivets to add effect.
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02-07-2013, 04:24 PM
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King of all manfu
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: DAYTONA USA
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Depending on the number and size of said holes, perhaps a re-jet as well.
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02-07-2013, 06:17 PM
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Junk collector
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Location: Da UP Eh!
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Just like exhausts, fuel maps, and head porting do nothing for performance. You can also take any bike off the showroom and race it because they engineered it to be the fastest most efficient bike from the factory.
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02-07-2013, 06:39 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2010
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Bigger isn't always better. Some older heads respond well to filling the floor of the intake port to reduce volume and increase velocity and increasing the radius of the turn into the valve bowl to reduce fuel separation. On the Concours, there is an airbox mod that involves reducing the area of the intake for a boost in performance, but there needs to be a corresponding jet change or it goes rich.
You have to decide, when making mods, if you want every last bit of power wrung out above 9,000 at the expense of having an otherwise unrideable bike, or if you want to increase usable power in the middle of the rpm band where you spend most of your time. Are most of your trips a quarter-mile, 14 miles, or 1400 miles? |
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02-07-2013, 06:40 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: huntington beach
Oddometer: 433
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Unibit/step drill
Use a marker on the bit at the diameter you want |
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02-07-2013, 06:42 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Carson CA.
Oddometer: 317
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Can't hurt to try
On my F800 I used a hole saw to put 3 holes on the part of the air box that's above the filter. I think the holes are 1" maybe 1 1/4" Before I did this I thought about what would happen if i wasn't happy with it. The plastic part I drilled into cost lass than $10.
A BMW part that's only $10??? I figured it was worth 10 bucks to see if the mod that had worked on everything else I'd ever owned would work on this. I noticed better bottom end/low speed response and no negative results(same top end, mileage etc.) I do hear a little more engine noise but it's nothing.
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