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Old 02-07-2014, 07:03 PM   #1
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Montana 650 camera questions

I'm sure this has been asked before but the search is jacked up.

I'm debating between the 600 and the 650 Montana on my road bike. I like the idea of having a built in camera so I wouldn't have to carry another one. But I am curious how good the camera is. My go to road camera is an old Sony 3.1MP so I'm not super picky about pics, but I want them to look good.

Also, what format are the pics in? I heard that the pics get automatically geotagged and I'm not sure what that does to the pics or the format of them.

Basically I am wondering if I can substitute a point and shoot camera for the one on the Montana 650 for my road trips.

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Old 02-07-2014, 07:09 PM   #2
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Most cheap point and shoot cameras take better pictures, but very few are waterproof, and you have to remember to bring it along, and keep it charged.

The Geotagging is actually very useful for marking places you need to remember, and you can even share them wirelessly to other riders.

The 650 is only about $40 more, and worth it, IMHO.

The pics are in jpg format. The geotagging is done in the EXIF data.
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Old 02-08-2014, 04:29 AM   #3
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The colors can be a bit subdued. Pictures that I took the same day as pics with a Lumix DMC-FX-07 (7 megapixel) show the Montana pictures a bit gray.

This shows the full frame but reduced to 800 x 600 from 2048 x 1536 original. The Montana was on a RAM mount on a thumper -- the vibration shows up as wavy bodywork and Dr. Seuss trees. This did NOT happen with half the pictures when mounted on the 700cc thumper, but it did happen on half.


Here's a Lumix pic from the same 20-mile section:



Lumix pics viewed at 100% show more noise than the Montana at 100%. The Montana images are generally sharp -- it's only the colors.

Montana was out at times the Lumix wasn't.


I thought of my non-waterproof Lumix as a vulnerability and it has since gotten a spot inside the optics and been replaced by a Sony. I'm glad to have the Montana camera for wet and dusty conditions.

I have reduced all these images and probably brightened the colors on the Montana ones. Looking at the originals on my computer shows I didn't process the colors too radically. But the photos were not intended to be test images.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:39 AM   #4
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I like mine.
Q- for the guys having one. Dusty environment, clean the lens with a small can of air, or is there a safe wipe cloth?
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:03 AM   #5
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Any cell phone these days takes much better pics then the Montana. But as MBD points out the Montana is water proof. Then again, how often do you really want to take pics in the rain? I've never even bothered to use my camera on my 650T aside from when I first bought it just to try it out.
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I like mine.
Q- for the guys having one. Dusty environment, clean the lens with a small can of air, or is there a safe wipe cloth?
Rather than a can of air, get a blower brush from a camera store. Once the dust is off it's safe to use a wipe cloth.
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is there a safe wipe cloth?
I treat mine like a face-shield -- water soak to soften the gunk then soft cloth. I've used eyeglass cloths and soft cotton.

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Then again, how often do you really want to take pics in the rain?
I ride in the rain often enough that sometimes it's either the Montana or nothing for pictures. On one trip report several people commented "looks like you had great weather" even though I said a few times that it rained more days than it didn't rain. The pictures were misleading. No cell service here so no cell phone (which as you say would not be waterproof).
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:53 PM   #8
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Thanks for the replys! I think I will get the 650.
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