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Old 06-15-2013, 03:19 AM   #46
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Swapped over rims today for a quick squirt.
Takes me 20 min for the change over.






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Old 06-15-2013, 03:58 AM   #47
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Creedy, do you also change out the sidestand each time?
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:59 AM   #48
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Also, Creedy, is that an SMC front fender? Do you keep that on all the time? I hear it is messier in the rain?
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:32 AM   #49
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Can anyone give some feed back on the performance of the forks with 17's? Whenever I've ridden on the road I find the standard forks dive badly under brakes. Or is that just part of the fun :)
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Old 06-15-2013, 07:59 AM   #50
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Creedy, do you also change out the sidestand each time?
No, just have the standard enduro side stand at the moment but I do have a spare stand I will modify to be adjustable.

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Also, Creedy, is that an SMC front fender? Do you keep that on all the time? I hear it is messier in the rain?
Yep SMC front fender, I change back to the enduro fender for the 21's.

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Old 09-11-2013, 07:43 PM   #51
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The 690 is so much at home in the SM setup. Mines spent most of it's life as a SM.

Could use some guidance from any inmates (particularly you guys above) who might wish to comment:

I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on a wheel set for SM Conversion (2013 690R). I talked with one guy who made the conversion but said he never got hooked on the SM because he experienced the front wheel always diving into the turn excessively.

Questions:

1-has anybody else had this problem?
2-what (if any) is the fix?
3- Separate from any "diving" problem, did you make triple clamp adjustments in order to fine tune the bike to the new geometry from the change in wheel diameters?

thanx in advance--stan
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:26 AM   #52
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Could use some guidance from any inmates (particularly you guys above) who might wish to comment:

I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on a wheel set for SM Conversion (2013 690R). I talked with one guy who made the conversion but said he never got hooked on the SM because he experienced the front wheel always diving into the turn excessively.

Questions:

1-has anybody else had this problem?
2-what (if any) is the fix?
3- Separate from any "diving" problem, did you make triple clamp adjustments in order to fine tune the bike to the new geometry from the change in wheel diameters?

thanx in advance--stan
Hi Mate,
No, never noticed any diving. I dont make any other adjustments when swapping from Dirt to Motards other than the speedo settings.
I just accept the bike for what it is, A Dirt bike with SM wheels. Of course it wont handle like a proper SMC but for my style of riding, its a heap of fun. Total hoon machine for fanging around the streets. Track days might be a different story though, but that doesnt really interest Me.
In the end the Motard rims are a bit of a novelty & I always enjoy getting the Dirt Rims back on & riding it like its supposed to be ridden, Flat out through the bush.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:00 AM   #53
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Never had the diving problem in all the years of running my SM setup. If anything, the 17 turns in a little SLOWER then the 21.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:28 PM   #54
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Tubeless vs Tubed

So I am looking to get my 690 into supermoto mode for christmas. I've been looking at the options and ktmtwins has their tubeless setup for around $2200 and the warp9 tubed setup for $1200. Is it really worth an extra grand for tubeless?
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:31 PM   #55
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Is it really worth an extra grand for tubeless?
Depends on what you want.

Outex sells a tubeless kit on ebay that makes a regular spoked rim tubeless.

I ran tubes for years in my 640 LC4 SM and never had a puncture. Tubeless is nice but not worth $1K, imo.

I think it's more important to have good rims like Excel, but that's me.

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Old 10-04-2013, 11:54 PM   #56
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Could use some guidance from any inmates (particularly you guys above) who might wish to comment:

I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on a wheel set for SM Conversion (2013 690R). I talked with one guy who made the conversion but said he never got hooked on the SM because he experienced the front wheel always diving into the turn excessively.

Questions:

1-has anybody else had this problem?
2-what (if any) is the fix?
3- Separate from any "diving" problem, did you make triple clamp adjustments in order to fine tune the bike to the new geometry from the change in wheel diameters?

thanx in advance--stan
The fork on an SMC and Duke mounts the axle directly in line with the fork. The E has an offset. So the bikes will not handle the same. I find the E is acceptable handling, albeit a little "off". It doesn't drop into a turn like you described, but it's not as dialed in as a Duke (neve rode an SMC). If you have to have one bike only for cyn blasting and enduro adv, the SM wheels are a good way to accomplish that. That said I'm buying a DUKE!
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Wanna buy my KTM SMC wheels?

Here's the ad link:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=924633
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:25 AM   #58
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I like a little more meat in the rear...

Im going for the 3.5 and 5. Is warp9 not a good brand? I will look into the tubless conversion on ebay.
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:54 AM   #59
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Is warp9 not a good brand? I will look into the tubless conversion on ebay.
I don't know much about Warp9.

Do they make a product as good as Behr/Saxess or RK Excel Supermoto rims? I doubt it. Behr is OEM for KTM and BMW iirc and RK/Excel is OEM for many Japanese MX bikes. I think you get what you pay for wrt rims. The good stuff is more expensive.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:08 AM   #60
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So I am looking to get my 690 into supermoto mode for christmas. I've been looking at the options and ktmtwins has their tubeless setup for around $2200 and the warp9 tubed setup for $1200. Is it really worth an extra grand for tubeless?
Does the Warp 9 have a cush hub?....
Does the 1200 include rotors, sprocket and carrier?

apples to oranges

the ktm twims kit is a bargain
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