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Old 11-30-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
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Dodges new 1500 Diesel

anyone have an real world info on these

a friend bought one loaded paid $58K

claims to get 28 MPG at 80 MPH on highway

but he would not take it off road for duck hunting???
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Old 11-30-2014, 08:32 PM   #2
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>"paid $58K"

$58K for a 1/2 ton truck?
I don't think I'd take it out of the driveway.
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Old 11-30-2014, 08:49 PM   #3
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:01 PM   #4
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To me it seems like they put so much heavy crap in a 1/2 ton that the Ecodiesels seem to suffer quite a loss of payload from it.

IE a truck with a GVWR of 6,950#'s that weighs in at 6,460#'s does not seem to have a lot of weight capacity left for things like passengers and trailer tongue weight; in my case two 175-200# guys, two KTM 300's and some gear would put the Dodge (as tested) ~400#'s over it's GVWR. Even though the truck tested is a loaded model it does not seem like you are going to gain back much more than ~400#'s of payload back by going with a low optioned truck:

Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart

http://blogs.cars.com/files/1-ram-15...ew-4x4-231.pdf



Same test ( Our Inaugural Annual Physical: This Time, V-6s - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports ) so I am assuming the same testing methodology in regards to curb weight, the GM weighs in at 5,340#'s and has a 7,100# GVWR so I am going with the Ecodiesel is one heavy bitch:

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Old 11-30-2014, 09:13 PM   #5
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To me it seems like they put so much heavy crap in a 1/2 ton that the Ecodiesels seem to suffer quite a loss of payload from it.

IE a truck with a GVWR of 6,950#'s that weighs in at 6,460#'s does not seem to have a lot of weight capacity left for things like passengers and trailer tongue weight; in my case two 175-200# guys, two KTM 300's and some gear would put the Dodge (as tested) ~400#'s over it's GVWR. Even though the truck tested is a loaded model it does not seem like you are going to gain back much more than ~400#'s of payload back by going with a low optioned truck:
One of the comments from the page you linked.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:55 PM   #6
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Like many new vehicles, I like what I read, then I see the price.



Who buys these things without taking advantage of HUGE cuts in the MSRP? Those inflated MSRPs just add to the buying hassle.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:29 AM   #7
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You can get a base model ecodiesel Dodge for a bit over $30K
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:59 AM   #8
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I test drove one, and liked it. The truck fits the bill perfect for my needs. It is waaaayyyyy over priced.

You can buy a gas burner Ford with the same power specs for $35k, or 5.3 Chevy, slightly less power for $35k.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:15 AM   #9
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Same test ( Our Inaugural Annual Physical: This Time, V-6s - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports ) so I am assuming the same testing methodology in regards to curb weight, the GM weighs in at 5,340#'s and has a 7,100# GVWR so I am going with the Ecodiesel is one heavy bitch:
It would be better to compare apples to oranges and my guess is that test doesn't. If you look at the price as tested amount for both trucks I suspect there's a big difference in trim packages. The Dodge is $56K verses $41K for the GM. When I first saw that Dodge was offering a diesel I thought it would be great and started do a little research. The payload on the low-end truck is decent, but as you move up the trim levels the payload really drops. I wanted a higher end trim level and decided a 1500 with a diesel wasn't going to work.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:44 AM   #10
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I ran the numbers on this and came up with similar results.
In Canada, the cheapest I can build out an EcoDiesel is somewhere in the $35-38k range.

I have truck 'needs'...and fewer truck 'wants'.
I need a truck to do truck stuff...haul bikes, spring time landscaping projects, mulch, plants, home depot impulse buys, dump runs, and maybe occasional towing of a smallish camper (less than 2500 lbs)

I can do all that with a $23k regular cab with a Hemi. And I can buy a lot of gas for the difference in price between that and the EcoDiesel.

FWIW..I have no munchkins to cart around and my wife has a nice scoot of her own, so this is a 2nd vehicle that doesn't see commuter duty. Personally, I don't see the value of it although I'm sure there is a market for it.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:11 AM   #11
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who pays sticker for an american pickup truck? just wait till year end and get $10K off
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:29 AM   #12
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It's a Ram, not a Dodge. Ram trucks haven't been sold as Dodge since 2009.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM   #13
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It's a Ram, not a Dodge. Ram trucks haven't been sold as Dodge since 2009.
Yeah, but my 2012 still has "Dodge" prominently displayed on the dashboard.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:50 AM   #14
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It's a Ram, not a Dodge. Ram trucks haven't been sold as Dodge since 2009.
How's that working for them?

Since I and everyone I know still calls 'em Dodges, I'd say not very well.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:54 AM   #15
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It's a Ram, not a Dodge. Ram trucks haven't been sold as Dodge since 2009.
It is, for all intents & purposes, a Dodge, in the same sense that the Promaster by the same ersatz brand name is a Fiat.
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