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Old 10-24-2014, 07:43 AM   #1
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48 state cartridge choice, hunting rifles

So as not to utterly derail the .30-06 thread...

I suspect the '06 vs .308 debate will still be going on for the rest of the century.

Not counting specialty hunting like prairie dogging, what cartridge would you select as universal for the lower 48 where dangerous game is not a worry?

Going from memory, the ballistics of the 308 and '06 are almost identical except IIRC at 220 grain bullets.

Jack O'Connor publicly touted the .270 but I've read that privately he admitted the '06 was more versatile.

Another guy who I respect likes 7mm Mag for his hunting which is mostly Elk.

I see lots of .300 Mag at the range. Potent and long range.

One hunting iron...pick yer poison..
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:51 AM   #2
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I can't decide. I love my 30-30 for heavy woods and brush but it doesn't hold a candle to my 30-06 for field/meadow shooting.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:03 AM   #3
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I really like my Ruger 77/357 in .357Mag. It's light and handy and put down my last doe real quick. I'd trust it to put down anything within 100 yards easy.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:06 AM   #4
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much as I like the .308, there is nothing it can do the .30 '06 can't do as well and there are some things the '06 can do the .308 can't. The only thing it can't do is fit in an AR.

If I had to have a bolt action, it'd be an '06. Otherwise I'd get an AR in .308 and use it for everything.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:08 AM   #5
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Honestly 30-06. But a 30-30 would be a close runner up because it's a better brush gun and would do less damage to smaller game if needed. Bigger game would take really good shot placement and a closer shot.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:40 AM   #6
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Even when ammo was like unicorn pee, 30.06 was still on just about every shelf in several weights, even Bubba's beer and belch emporium. I'll stick with it.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:53 AM   #7
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Even when ammo was like unicorn pee, 30.06 was still on just about every shelf in several weights, even Bubba's beer and belch emporium. I'll stick with it.




And the 30-06 Ammo is usually the least expensive on the shelf.
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:36 AM   #8
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I'll admit to a special fondness for "America's Cartridge," the .30-06. I have an M1 Garand and a Winchester 70 Super Grade chambered for it.

Some of the new "light magnum" loadings give it the smallest edge over the .308.

For the Lower 48, unless you're taking elk at 300+ yards, the .300 Win Mag is just too much. Isn't it?

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Old 10-24-2014, 09:53 AM   #9
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Tough to beat the .30-06 for a do all.
I've seen the wound cavities from the -06. It's twice the size of my .270. (Damages more meat.) The .270 also shoots flatter.
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Old 10-24-2014, 10:36 AM   #11
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Are you actually planning on hunting with it, or is the 48 state reference just for discussion? The only thing mentioned here that is legal for deer in Ohio is the .357 mag. You can use the .30 necked case size rifles for coyote or hog, or squirrel if you load them right, but not deer.
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Are you actually planning on hunting with it, or is the 48 state reference just for discussion? The only thing mentioned here that is legal for deer in Ohio is the .357 mag. You can use the .30 necked case size rifles for coyote or hog, or squirrel if you load them right, but not deer.
Speaking of which, I was very happy to see the new Michigan law that allows pistol carbines.

My chances just got a lot better!
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:37 AM   #13
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I always like these threads, they make me want a new rifle for no good reason

I still have my Father's sporterized 30-40 Krag, and thanks to the resurgence of that model, I have been able to acquire enough ammunition to shoot a deer a year (assuming 1 shot - 1 deer), until my great grand nephews are too old to hunt.

Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to get out and hunt these days and have killed more deer in the last 10 years with my car than with the Krag.

I had to replace the sling a few years ago and bought one of the Carlos Hathcock Slings from Turner saddlery. It is a lovely piece of work and part of the purchase price is paid to the Hathcock estate

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/249...-sling-leather
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