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Old 02-14-2013, 03:43 PM   #91
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They are not all bad.
The Road Glide is arguably the best for long trips
As said, they are built pretty well. You won't get 100k plus mile on one (like a Wing) without major expense.
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Not really. I have 40,000 on my 2009 Heritage Classic. 0 trouble, period. My GS is fun and I really enjoy it. But the HD is very comfy and just feels right. I recently knocked out a 600+ mile day on the HD without issue. Go ride one, any model after 09 and decide for yourself if it feels right.
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:55 PM   #92
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Most jap, German, Italian or Brit bikes remain in the same condition as when they left the factory; most Harley's don't. That's just a fact.. As totally standard they can't compete with the competition.
I love it when people spew crap and then say "that's a fact!"
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:00 PM   #93
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dont, i would buy a Victory instead.

i dislike hogs but:

-they get really good mileage (not really sure how)
-they can be really pretty
-they are actually kind of reliable if you dont change a bunch of shit
-RESALE value

and the negatives (the ones that are factual)

-heavy
-not too great in the braking dept.
-people will hate you just because you ride a "murdersickle"
-you will be forced to buy tons of Harley shit or somebody will murder your dog
-they vibrate like crazy, just look at anybody sitting on a hog at a redlight
-they're expensive especially if you buy new, but i wouldnt trust a used harley so...
Mileage: really low rpm at speed.

Vibrate: Yes, and it's never bothered me near as much as that 4-cylinder buzz.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:09 PM   #94
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dont, i would buy a Victory instead.

i dislike hogs but:

-they get really good mileage (not really sure how)
-they can be really pretty
-they are actually kind of reliable if you dont change a bunch of shit
-RESALE value

and the negatives (the ones that are factual)

-heavy
-not too great in the braking dept.
-people will hate you just because you ride a "murdersickle"
-you will be forced to buy tons of Harley shit or somebody will murder your dog
-they vibrate like crazy, just look at anybody sitting on a hog at a redlight
-they're expensive especially if you buy new, but i wouldnt trust a used harley so...
Sure they vibe at a stoplight; they're suppose to. On the road my 103 is smoother than any other engine I've ever had in a bike. Zero vibes at speed, it's crazy smooth and I've owned a crapload of bikes including Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, KTM and Ducati.
The new ones have better brakes - ABS brembos, they don't suck at all.

On a trip to Colorado I averaged 46 MPG over 3000+ miles which means you can go well over 200 between fuel stops. One tank on the San Juan loop out of Durango it got 55 mpg for the 230 mile loop. crazy for a big bike.

Don't Kill my dog just because I don't buy into the HAWG culture

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Old 02-14-2013, 04:14 PM   #95
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My new Road King Classic is the nicest, smoothest bike I've ever been on.

Of course my last bike was a KLR!
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #96
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Harleys do vibrate at low speeds. And they make the most beautiful sound of any bike I've ever heard. Take a look at the engine on a Harley at a stoplight. See how it shakes around in the frame. Now look at ANY other bike, and you will not see that. And while some Japanese bikes come close to the Harley sound with the right pipes, they never get it exactly right. Harleys have character and personality, something none of my bikes ever had, with one exception, a 1966 Triumph. But it was unreliable. A newer Harley is reliable. A Harley is still a machine. Somewhat crude and primitive, but therein lies it's appeal, at least to me. It is not homogenized, pasteurized, and so highly refined that all it's soul is gone. Harley has avoided what other manufacturers are doing their best to accomplish. To completely isolate you from the bike and the riding experience. Lexus used to run ads saying just how smooth and quiet their cars were, just like sitting in your living room. That is the last thing I want. Needless to say, I don't own a Lexus.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #97
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Going quick around a corner is not about lean angle.
ill have to disagree with you there....
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:12 PM   #98
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I have to admit that this bike has put the fun back in motorcycling for me. I just can't help but smile every time I ride it.
I can see where this comes from. It is a different experience. More of a mechanical, classic motorcycle experience. Less about performance and carving turns and more about the machine making noises and the wind in your face.

But then that's a big problem I have with HDs and cruisers in general: They encourage me to gear down. Having a lazy, haphazardly handling machine under me and go that slowly, I'll be damned if I'm encasing myself in gear. I want the wind, the noise, the smells. This means no full face helmet... possibly no helmet. It means jeans and work boots and maybe a jacket, maybe not.

And this is why I avoid cruisers. I lack the self discipline to gear up when riding them. Meanwhile the power-ranger suit feels the part when on something with some sport to it.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #99
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First of all, I am not ATGATT. I would give up riding first, as it would no longer be fun. I do always wear a full face helmet, even on a scooter, jeans, and some kind of boots. I wear a jacket if it is cold enough. I often ride in the summer wearing an MX jersey and thin gloves, to protect myself from sunburn and hyperthermia. It exceeds 115 degrees here in the summer, and that kind of temperature can cause disorientation and put you in danger of crashing, just like getting too cold can. Other than than the helmet, I do not have special clothes just for riding, unless it is really cold. I ride to work wearing my work clothes, which include jeans and steel toed boots, and the helmet. Other than a few rain suits, a CHP leather jacket, and a pair of heated gloves I have owned very little motorcycle specific apparel in my life.

If you think that is crazy, just look at what bicyclists wear in traffic. Spandex and a helmet that offers virtually no protection at all.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:55 PM   #100
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They look good, sound nice and appeal to the non biking public but I can't help thinking that HD's marketing dept is where most of the budget is spent..
Take a R1200RT, ST1300, FJR1300, Triumph 1050GT etc out for a long test ride and then take out a Harley for a spin and judge them objectively as motorcycles and see what conclusion you come up with..
So you bought a Sportster..........No offense to Sportster owners, I've got one myself, but you do realize that a R1200RT, ST1300, FJR1300, and 1050GT are not in the same league as a Sportster. The Sportster is HDs "entry" bike. A better comparison would be the bikes you listed compared to something from the Dyna and Touring lines.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:58 PM   #101
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Sure they vibe at a stoplight; they're suppose to. On the road my 103 is smoother than any other engine I've ever had in a bike. Zero vibes at speed, it's crazy smooth and I've owned a crapload of bikes including Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, KTM and Ducati.
The new ones have better brakes - ABS brembos, they don't suck at all.

On a trip to Colorado I averaged 46 MPG over 3000+ miles which means you can go well over 200 between fuel stops. One tank on the San Juan loop out of Durango it got 55 mpg for the 230 mile loop. crazy for a big bike.

Don't Kill my dog just because I don't buy into the HAWG culture
Ditto all of the above. Yes, the HD touring engines look like a paint-shaker at idle. At speed, agreed, the smoothest bike I've ridden. You can feel a 'thrum' -- but it's relaxing, really. Like a V8 has a thrum at speed. Another incredibly smooth bike -- the "Wing -- feels electric, but I can still detect a little tiny buzz in the handlebars at speed.

Ive gotten the same high MPG in high altitude and not going too fast.

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Old 02-14-2013, 06:12 PM   #102
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Huh. My Sportster is not what I'd call "smooth" at any speed. It shakes at idle, and it vibrates the crap out of my hands, feet, and butt going down the highway. In fact, it is the shakiest bike I have ever owned. I guess the big Harleys are smoother, but I don't like em that big.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:29 PM   #103
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ill have to disagree with you there....
You can if you'd like to, but you'd be wrong. It's not an opinion thing, it's physics.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:31 PM   #104
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Huh. My Sportster is not what I'd call "smooth" at any speed. It shakes at idle, and it vibrates the crap out of my hands, feet, and butt going down the highway. In fact, it is the shakiest bike I have ever owned. I guess the big Harleys are smoother, but I don't like em that big.
If you don't hold the front brake at stops it won't shake quite so bad. It'll still be paint-shaker level, don't get me wrong, lol.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:26 PM   #105
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Huh. My Sportster is not what I'd call "smooth" at any speed. It shakes at idle, and it vibrates the crap out of my hands, feet, and butt going down the highway. In fact, it is the shakiest bike I have ever owned. I guess the big Harleys are smoother, but I don't like em that big.
What year is your Sporty? I know they switched to rubber motor mounts at some point; my '08 had them and was way smoother than my buddy's '96, which did not.
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