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Old 03-17-2013, 03:09 PM   #31
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Hey guys and girls, from the land of OZ, I have a VERY sweet V7 Sport,(1973). Unfortunately I can't seem to come to grips with setup of the 4LS front brake. (We have WOMBATS here, and brakes are kind of handy....)
I believe the later models into the U.S. had an option of a twin disc front end. I could do with that lot, so's I can ride my sweet Ruby on a more regular basis.
So. If anyone might happen to come across a disco front end to suit, I'd love to hear....
Hello Bootlace,
The 4LS brake on the V7 Sport (same as on my 74 California) can be a very effective brake. It is at least as good, if not better than the single disc setups on the later Loops - if not quite as good as the double discs on the later models.

My advise would be to find someone in Oz who can set it up properly for you. Its part of the bike's history and origins and it would be a shame to abandon it.

It can be very effective - you just need to find out how. Have you tried looking for advise over on the wildguzzi forum (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0)? There are many people there who can, and probably will help you.

Lastly, wombats, badgers, raccoons, deer - hazards to riding all. Perhaps an adjustment of riding style is as much in order as a brakectomy.

Nick
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #32
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Kev,
My non Guzzi owning mate reckons I should remove the heads, check the barrels and if ok do the oils and try to fire up to see how the land lies. This before stripping to do Gilardonis.
What do you think??
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:09 AM   #33
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Hello Bootlace,
The 4LS brake on the V7 Sport (same as on my 74 California) can be a very effective brake. It is at least as good, if not better than the single disc setups on the later Loops - if not quite as good as the double discs on the later models.

My advise would be to find someone in Oz who can set it up properly for you. Its part of the bike's history and origins and it would be a shame to abandon it.

It can be very effective - you just need to find out how. Have you tried looking for advise over on the wildguzzi forum (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0)? There are many people there who can, and probably will help you.

Lastly, wombats, badgers, raccoons, deer - hazards to riding all. Perhaps an adjustment of riding style is as much in order as a brakectomy.

Nick
Yeah. I know where you're coming from, just I get a bit pissed orff with it occasionally.....WILL TRY HARDER!!!!!!
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:36 AM   #34
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Kev,
My non Guzzi owning mate reckons I should remove the heads, check the barrels and if ok do the oils and try to fire up to see how the land lies. This before stripping to do Gilardonis.
What do you think??
DB
Dropping the fluids before attempting to start would be recommended. Run them through a fine mesh paint strainer. Look for debris, shavings, etc.
Stick a wee magnet through the spark plug hole. Heavy attraction to the cylinder wall indicates steel liners. (Good) Mild attraction to wall indicates chrome liners. (Bad) No attraction indicates Nikasil liners. (Very Good).
From the looks of the bike, you've many hills to cross before firing it up and taking it for a spin around the block...
Patience grasshopper

If you can't stand it and must hear it run with no silencers, remove spark plugs and a head cover and turn it over
until you see oil pumped to the head. Your oil pump needs a prime after sitting so long...
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:56 AM   #35
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Kev,
My non Guzzi owning mate reckons I should remove the heads, check the barrels and if ok do the oils and try to fire up to see how the land lies. This before stripping to do Gilardonis.
What do you think??
DB
Don't do it Dave!

By all means pull the heads and barrels etc, you will need to do this anyway to fit the new ones, and don't just change the oil, drop the sump, and give it all a good clean, ready for when you have it ready to go, otherwise you will be pumping all that old crud that has migrated to the bottom, back around the motor.

take your time Dave it will be worth it.

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Old 03-18-2013, 12:56 PM   #36
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Cheers guys. Yeah I would drop the sump to clean out, de- crud carbs etc however if everything else seems ok inside and assuming the chrome is not flaking off the bores I would like to hear it run just to see if bottom end strip required. I would rather not do this if not required. I'm not interested in making this a show queen by the way. I like my bikes to look rough and original. They're more talked about that way. Mechanics have to be good though.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #37
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How many miles are on that thing????

There ain't no oil filter and everything else depends on a series of sludge traps.

Face it Man. The whole thing will come apart sooner or later if you intend on riding it.

You've GOT to clean the bugger out/up!
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:29 PM   #38
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Fair enough i'll pull it down. About 50K on the clock
Prepare for a bombardment of quetions now........
Rgds
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:55 PM   #39
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Does it count if it was a while ago?

Before as seen in the "basic guzzi info please" thread:



After:



MZ Rider (Hi Charlie ) did the engine and clutch for me. Charley Cole did

the final drive and the transmission, http://www.zydecoracing.com/home.html

I had a few others help with paint and powdercoating and I got to put it all

together. Started December 2007. Finished ??? It's a Guzzi hence a kit bike

that's a work in progress and a great learning experience.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:28 AM   #40
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Very nice job, I love that maroon colour
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:28 PM   #41
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Very nice job, I love that maroon colour
Thanks, Kev, It's actually a colour used by 'Guzzi for the early loop
frames, think V700. Glasurit by a guy who does BMW and Acura cars for
a living. It's the prettiest bike in the barn, although I like the patina on
the original Honda Super Hawk a lot.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:15 PM   #42
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Hey guys and girls, from the land of OZ, I have a VERY sweet V7 Sport,(1973). Unfortunately I can't seem to come to grips with setup of the 4LS front brake. (We have WOMBATS here, and brakes are kind of handy....)
I believe the later models into the U.S. had an option of a twin disc front end. I could do with that lot, so's I can ride my sweet Ruby on a more regular basis.
So. If anyone might happen to come across a disco front end to suit, I'd love to hear....
Boot, give me a call and i can tell you how its done, the right way. locky.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:26 PM   #43
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I may join the fray this weekend. There is a 72 Eldo for sale here locally with 21K miles on it that does not look too bad. I am concerned about the chrome bores but it has laways beena a Colorado bike and it is dry here.

So before I make a total fool of myself, and with the great experiance here, What should I look for that would make or break the deal.

Marc
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:44 AM   #44
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I may join the fray this weekend. There is a 72 Eldo for sale here locally with 21K miles on it that does not look too bad. I am concerned about the chrome bores but it has laways beena a Colorado bike and it is dry here.

So before I make a total fool of myself, and with the great experiance here, What should I look for that would make or break the deal.

Marc

The usual stuff, plus: clunks in the U-Joint, slop in the rear-wheel splines, chrome panels on the tank, stripped generator mount bolt holes in the block, decent sheetmetal. Trust the chrome not to flake at your peril..
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:12 AM   #45
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Before as seen in the "basic guzzi info please" thread:



After:



MZ Rider (Hi Charlie ) did the engine and clutch for me. Charley Cole did

the final drive and the transmission, http://www.zydecoracing.com/home.html

I had a few others help with paint and powdercoating and I got to put it all

together. Started December 2007. Finished ??? It's a Guzzi hence a kit bike

that's a work in progress and a great learning experience.

Goddamn. I remember when you got this.
'07?

Congrats
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